Or maybe it's because things like tanks w/ high survivability and forward medical trucks lend themselves better to team games than what allies have
I'll give you a chance though: Explain how allies require more communication than Axis.
Best way to balance coh2
16 Jun 2015, 21:31 PM
#41
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16 Jun 2015, 21:52 PM
#42
Posts: 1024 | Subs: 1
Just make 5 identical armies. Balance everywhere!
16 Jun 2015, 22:10 PM
#43
Posts: 1225
I just find it amusing that the vast majority of whining comes from 1v1 players on forums even though 1v1 is only 18% of this game
Waving such a significant statistic aside makes you look like a dope
I aim to please, Tovarish Jugashvili.
Seriously tho, I used to be a heavy 2v2 player as well, and in vCoH I started as a 4v4 Scheldt hero. Point also being, many 1v1 players occasionally play team games as well, and among the vocal forum warriors/fanboys, there are at least as many teamplayers than there are 1v1 players (and some who dont play at all...).
With that perspective, I feel pretty confident in stating that, to take the most extreme example, ie. 4v4 is positively artless compared to 1v1. The things that distinguish the CoH franchises from other RTS games, ie. cover mechanics, the importance of flanking/true sight etc, infantry combat in general has much less significance in larger teamgames, owing to a higher density of units, accelerated teching, what have you. In short, 4v4 is a much more generic sort of game, and it would pain me if this somewhat dumbed down form would take preeminence in balance considerations.
16 Jun 2015, 22:30 PM
#44
Posts: 2280 | Subs: 2
Permanently Bannedleyawn pls, your 1v1 elitism hurts my heart. 
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
16 Jun 2015, 22:39 PM
#45
Posts: 2693 | Subs: 1
I'll give you a chance though: Explain how allies require more communication than Axis.
From what I have noticed in team games is that allies require more coördination because assaulting from the front is not as viable as allies as it is with axis. MG42s, Target Weakpoint, always-penetrate-medium-tanks panzerfausts, the schreks, and the high front armor values of Axis tanks all make frontal assaults very dangerous and not rewarding as allies; and you can't pull off a good flank by yourself.
Axis on the other hand are better at frontal assaults, which is easier to coördinate with your allies.
1v1 is easier for allies at the moment, but the more players you add, the better the axis become.
16 Jun 2015, 22:53 PM
#46
Posts: 1225
leyawn pls, your 1v1 elitism hurts my heart.
Dude, chacun à son goût. You're having fun in 4v4, don't like 1v1, more power to you. But play 20 games of each and tell me its not true.
17 Jun 2015, 01:09 AM
#47
Posts: 8154 | Subs: 2
The overall quality and number of allies players on +3v3 is lower in comparison to Axis, therefore you end up generally with worst teammates. That's how you get that huge disparity on +3v3 randoms. I'm sure that on AT the difference is lower.
Nevertheless, what you can bring as Axis in comparison to Allies, escales way better on one side.
3v3-4v4 balance BEFORE WFA, was a matter of resources and map. Nowadays i'm not sure how you can do so with OKW on the mix.
Nevertheless, what you can bring as Axis in comparison to Allies, escales way better on one side.
3v3-4v4 balance BEFORE WFA, was a matter of resources and map. Nowadays i'm not sure how you can do so with OKW on the mix.
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
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And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
17 Jun 2015, 02:31 AM
#48
Posts: 622
remove okw
Delete Soviet
in that case please delete OKW, Soviet, USF, Osteer.... to fix game, well why not just let the game able to install then uninstall instantly like that panda antivirus that label itself as virus and kill itself.
17 Jun 2015, 02:47 AM
#49
Posts: 3103 | Subs: 1
in that case please delete OKW, Soviet, USF, Osteer.... to fix game, well why not just let the game able to install then uninstall instantly like that panda antivirus that label itself as virus and kill itself.
Remove everything but the Polish partisans
17 Jun 2015, 05:39 AM
#50
Posts: 1116 | Subs: 1
Permanently BannedTop lol from arclyte. Dat 3v3 and 4v4 elitism.
1337 h4X0R, dank memes
axis
17 Jun 2015, 11:24 AM
#51
Posts: 692
1v1 sucks
just the way it is pal ;\
just the way it is pal ;\
17 Jun 2015, 11:37 AM
#52
Posts: 4928
Just make 5 identical armies. Balance everywhere!
According to Relic, they tested this internally. Mirror factions with no differences other than colours (red blocks vs blue blocks), players were not told their factions were identical. Popular opinion was that red blocks were OP.
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17 Jun 2015, 14:07 PM
#53
Posts: 670
1v1 sucks
just the way it is pal ;\
well meme'd my friend
According to Relic, they tested this internally. Mirror factions with no differences other than colours (red blocks vs blue blocks), players were not told their factions were identical. Popular opinion was that red blocks were OP.
Now this is interesting
I myself bought 14 OKW factions during a Steam sale last year for alt accounts
17 Jun 2015, 15:54 PM
#54
Posts: 2115 | Subs: 1
1v1 sucks
just the way it is pal ;\
didnt play a single ranked 1v1 game
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17 Jun 2015, 17:23 PM
#55
Posts: 1617
1v1 sucks
just the way it is pal ;\
Not sure why 95% of the casts and every tourney is built around 1v1s...but you know
17 Jun 2015, 17:35 PM
#56
Posts: 1702
ah yes , the mode that has atleast some semblance of balance sucks hard 
17 Jun 2015, 18:29 PM
#57
Posts: 692
Honorable comrades,
The truth cannot be hidden! Team games are clearly the preferred game mode of the People! 1v1 is more dead than herr fuhrer himself, with only a vocal minority of degenerates and political criminals creating an illusion of relevance.
The truth cannot be hidden! Team games are clearly the preferred game mode of the People! 1v1 is more dead than herr fuhrer himself, with only a vocal minority of degenerates and political criminals creating an illusion of relevance.
17 Jun 2015, 18:30 PM
#58
Posts: 1116 | Subs: 1
Permanently Bannedyah pls nerf axis they evil and OP
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axis
18 Jun 2015, 18:01 PM
#59
Posts: 1891
GUARD MOTOR GAME BREAK
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