T-34 needs a buff

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 08:23 AMSqueaky Door 96

Is it me or is the vet 3 t34-76 underwhelming? If I succeed to keep it alive that long, it than faces better armor, which kill it with ease. In my opinion , they are designed to be used in massive formations. Which is a fine and pretty need design, yet why are they 100 fuel than? They cost to much..

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 08:32 AMKatitof

That is because vet3 T34 isn't really that much different then vet0 one.

Its all about the armor vet axis tanks get.

Allied mediums have pretty underwhelming vet going for them and unless vet1 ability is good, the other 2 stars are pretty irrelevant.

You get better mobility and better RoF.
Axis tanks get that too plus in some cases huge armor buff or in other armor+hp. That makes a difference, RoF buff on inaccurate, low pen gun isn't bad in itself, but it certainly isn't as impactful.

Vet2 P4 is great, vet2 T34 is still meh. As a side note, USF shermans also do not have amazing vet, but pretty good out of the gate utility and the ability to actually FIGHT EFFECTIVELY at least 1 target group without the need for driving over it makes them incomparably more effective then T34.

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 08:41 AMTheSleep3r

if medium tanks are supposed to take losses in an attempt on destroying one heavy, then why to increase vet bonuses? you'll have to replace them anyway starting from vet 0

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 09:24 AMBlalord

He means that a medium tank is not supposed to take an heavy one alone.
And IS2 will still not care of P4 Vet 2, cause he will always penetrate him.

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 09:24 AMBlalord

And IS2 will still not care of P4 Vet 2, cause he will always penetrate him.

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 09:24 AMBlalord

He means that a medium tank is not supposed to take an heavy one alone.
And IS2 will still not care of P4 Vet 2, cause he will always penetrate him.

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 09:27 AMKatitof

And he attempted to use that as an argument that change is not needed.
Its not unwise, its plain dumb.

That is like saying we shouldn't buff 222, because it'll lose to T-70 anyway.

That kind of argument doesn't make any sense at all.

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 09:27 AMKatitof

And he attempted to use that as an argument that change is not needed.
Its not unwise, its plain dumb.

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 09:27 AMKatitof

That is like saying we shouldn't buff 222, because it'll lose to T-70 anyway.

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 09:27 AMKatitof

And he attempted to use that as an argument that change is not needed.
Its not unwise, its plain dumb.

That is like saying we shouldn't buff 222, because it'll lose to T-70 anyway.

That kind of argument doesn't make any sense at all.

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 08:35 AMnewvan

All the difference of vet3 T-34/76 from vet0 are:
Secure Mode
speed - 7,8 from 6,5
reload speed - 3,83 from 6,75
turret rotation - 47,25 from 35
ac/de-celeration - 2,76 from 2.3
rotation - 43,2 from 36

For comparison, vet3 PanzerIV vs vet0:
Blitzkrieg - speed bonus to 8.505, ac/de-celeration to 3,276
armor - 234/117 from 180/90
reload speed - 4,1 from 5,75
turret rotation - 49 from 35
ac/de-celeration - 2,52 from 2,1
rotation - 38,4 from 32

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 11:30 AMJohnnyB

It's funny that soviet fanboys hate krupp steel but want that their tanks resemble to the german ones.

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 11:32 AMZyllen

I still have not seen a single decent argument why the t-34 needs a buff. the best argument so far is that its not an 85 so it sucks. well i can say the p4 sucks just as much then. but the t-34 is fine save for its shitty vet 1 ability.

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 12:49 PMThe_rEd_bEar

thats because you obviously dont play coh2 or you only play axis, take your pick

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 11:30 AMJohnnyB

These differences make sense for me, because each tank has it's role and developes for different ways of usage on the battlefield. One gains armor, other gains speed, one gets blitz, the other one gets secure mode, one gets more buffs on certain feature than the other and vice versa.

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 12:57 PMZyllen

FFS 12 pages of worthless name calling with each side calling each other fan boys .

Red bear you look like a twat at the moment, mate . show me some respect and have the courtesy to bring arguments to the table why the t-34 need to be buffed or needs a role change. otherwise get lost mate im not interested in fanboy calling

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 13:10 PMThe_rEd_bEar

or are you a huge coh2 pro who can beat the top 100 axis 1v1 players with only t34s

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 08:35 AMQueenRatchet123

t34 should get radio net