Demo Charges are fun.
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Seriously though, allied players, stop howling "your a gay blobber!" if I am beating you in a match, you blob just as much as I do and early game my 3 volk and 1 sturm squads get easily chased off by your 5 con or 4 riflemen squads that just so happen to be right next to each other as you move to engage.
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agreed. Demos are fun. No patch required for demos. use sweepers
Using demos is super fun. Having them used against you isn't. Allow a sweeper upgrade to ALL axis infantry then its fine. Having to buy 4 pioneers so that all your troops have a sweeper isnt feasible. Demos vs blobs are ok. Demos versus 1 or 2 harassing or flanking units is not ok.
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say you have a fusiller squad worth 290 MP with a 90 munitions G43 upgrade. Boom. Hit a 90munitions demo while flanking.
Just wiped a squad (may have had vet too) essentially for free.
Much balance.
You know something terrible happened to me too last night. I upgrade my guards with DPs and a OH player puts a minefield in the retreat path. They die. How dare that evil Hun do that to me? Should I cry?
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I know how to fix demos: stop blobing.
And yet the biggest blobbers in this game happen to be the Allies. By far.
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And yet the biggest blobbers in this game happen to be the Allies. By far.
Go watch Paul's stream NOW
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I'd rather use all that muni for infantry and vehicle upgrades buuuut there is a lil problem with that.
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You know something terrible happened to me too last night. I upgrade my guards with DPs and a OH player puts a minefield in the retreat path. They die. How dare that evil Hun do that to me? Should I cry?
If he managed to get behind and flank you, he's earned the wipe. With demo you don't need to do any clever flanking. Just turd one out and wait.
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If he managed to get behind and flank you, he's earned the wipe. With demo you don't need to do any clever flanking. Just turd one out and wait.
How is this different to "if he managed to bait you over demo, he's earned the wipe" argument then?
You shouldn't get caught by more then single demo, if you have no sweepers after first one or after seeing assault engies, you've failed to take counter measures.
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How is this different to "if he managed to bait you over demo, he's earned the wipe" argument then?
You shouldn't get caught by more then single demo, if you have no sweepers after first one or after seeing assault engies, you've failed to take counter measures.
That's a good question, I'll try to explain.
1) Laying a minefield deep in enemy territory behind their lines is more complicated than laying demo in your own territory.
2) A Wehr minefield is very unlikely to wipe a full health squad retreating, only a half-dead squad. A demo will happily destroy full-health squads.
Let's say the soviet player gets a shocks squad behind you so when you retreat he wipes your units - this is fine. He's used timing and tactics to get the wipe. Same as the pios in your retreat path example. But with pios and the shocks would only wipe a badly injured squad. Demo wipes everything and with no skill involved?
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2) You haven't been walking over wehr minefields in a while then, its much more likely to wipe squad regardless of spacing they make on retreat, unless you plant it on the edge of retreat patch.
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Assuming your opponent is not blind and actually has some reaction time, S-mine fields will wipe squads if AND ONLY IF you manage to sneak a pio squad behind enemy lines to build the field in a retreat path. And guess what, all AI mines do this!
Now demo charges on the other hand do not have signs and will wipe squads without giving your opponent any response time. They also do not have to be placed on retreat paths, but instead can be placed on any semi-important spot for easy, 1-click wipes.
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