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Soviet ML20 Doctrines, Tonkhunters

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stug 3 g's i like to discipline myself and be efficient with popcap...

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I found out yesterday that Quad Mount AA-HT poops on Flak HT

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Festung Support with skipping T3 (Command PzIV) with Pak43 and late-game Panther and trolling with railway arty in late game.

Ostruppen into T4

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Joint Operations agasint ML20 or 120spam. Counter barrage is just amazing...

3v3 and 4v4 it's pure non meta game.

3x Pios+flamers + 2x MG, 1x HT to reinforce into Brummbar spam (my favourite strat).

I focused only on Ost cause it's hard to play non-meta USF or OKW cause no matter which doctrine/tier you will go, it's always somekind of meta. As for Sov, I dont have "no-meta" commanders.

Tho, in team games, I like to spam T34/76 with any doctrines without call ins.

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Im using anything when im in the mood to. The game is much more fun that way.

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5 May 2015, 09:44 AMSarantini

Fortified armor in 2v2
If there is an ISU I call in elefant.
Otherwise tech to T4. Panther in hulldown outranges jacksons and can take on is2s with ease if you have one atgun behind it.
USF has trouble dealing with a hullen down panther since jacksons dont have the range advantage.
And if I need mobility I just stop the hulldown and get a fast panther again.

interesting!

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I have been using Lend Lease commander with T1. The Shermans call ins are pretty nice as well.

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Mobile defense for the win!

such a fun commander and brings a lot of versatility to the table.

my other non meta commander is Windustry

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I've been playing around with jaeger infantry for the past few days. The ambush camo on infantry can lead to some fun situations... Also I love g43s and the stuka support is always on point.

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Scavenge considered out of meta?

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5 May 2015, 15:26 PMWingZero

The whole point of playing with JLI and StormTroopers, the ambush camo/uniform.

he meant jäger infantry doctrine.

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You know what's funny? There are A LOT of so-called "non-meta" play styles posted here and people claim that they are viable and you can win with them, but we have countless threads about how "stale" the game is right now.

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I went command tank for the longest time, but got tired of getting stomped on by 120s and is2s. Caved in and now I cheese with the mechanized doc. Feels good to have ez wipes as ostheer.

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5 May 2015, 12:42 PMAustralian Magic

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I focused only on Ost cause it's hard to play non-meta USF or OKW cause no matter which doctrine/tier you will go, it's always somekind of meta. As for Sov, I dont have "no-meta" commanders.

I know what you mean as regards to tecking, but there are plenty of underused units and fresh ways to play OKW.

You can call in spam P4s.
You can convert Fuel>muni and spam G43s fussies + off map arty barrage.
Spam Ostwinds backed by Rakketens
Hell I bet you could rush S Tiger in certain situations in 1v1

5 May 2015, 09:38 AMZtormi

I've used Festung Armor in 1on1 vs USF quite a bit. Mobile defense if I want to tech up to tier4.

I wanted to try this out, but I kept thinking that Pumas and Command tank will delay Panthers quite heavily? Perhaps useable in 4v4.

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5 May 2015, 07:16 AMBrachiaraidos

I like to use irregulars in team games because they drop LMGS when they die that my cons can pick up.

those LMGs are apparently half as good as the gren ones though so it's generally a bad idea to pick them up.

personally i love the two commanders with stuka smoke; it's an amazing ability.

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The stuka smoke is pretty cool for only 40 munis... and it can serve as an even cheaper recon ability!

And the 250 with LMG grens in provides the best harrasment force Werh can lay their hands on. Really helps with map control on big maps.

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I was Tank Hunter when Tank Hunter wasn't cool.....

After seeing Beemer pull it off, I tried it and it was a fun change. The 5 muni mines are one of the best bargains in the game. Just don't forget to move off of them after planting. Squad wipes are much better when they're standing on the mines than you, and yes, one of those mines will wipe most or all of a squad. In general, my micro and macro aren't quite up to the task but it beats playing Guard Motor or Shock Rifle all of the time. Rage quit when someone loses Panther to 5 muni mine plus 30 muni mine and 2 SU76's is worth it.

ML-20 doctrines get an honorable mention, in the few times that they can be used since everyone has CAS.

USF Armor kind of fun - sometimes have 30-40 crushes with M10's, it's like using MS Paint with the big eraser, just on mistakes that look like Sturmpios

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6 May 2015, 01:13 AMNuclear Arbitor

those LMGs are apparently half as good as the gren ones though so it's generally a bad idea to pick them up.

personally i love the two commanders with stuka smoke; it's an amazing ability.

The LMG isn't unique, it's just that partisans and irregulars have a baffling -50% accuracy modifier at all times.

'Reasons'

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6 May 2015, 02:06 AMBrachiaraidos

The LMG isn't unique, it's just that partisans and irregulars have a baffling -50% accuracy modifier at all times.

'Reasons'

it's possible this isn't actually the weapon they use but http://www.coh2-stats.com/small_arms/partisan_mg42lmg_mp

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Rosbone: @Nickbn No, I am just saying people should not be using any Relic owned forum since they have proven they ban anyone who says true things about Coh3.
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aerafield: @adamírcz aren't the first two disconnects free every day?
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Rosbone: It is so unlike Relic to punish its fans and community.
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Rosbone: It is an indicator of the very short sighted capitalist view that plagues any company where leadership does not understand the product.
13 Mar 2025, 20:00 PM

Rosbone: They dont care about Coh3 or Coh in general. They are just trying to grab cash by ripping off the small user base they have.
13 Mar 2025, 19:58 PM

Rosbone: Just making mistake after mistake after mistake.
13 Mar 2025, 19:57 PM

Rosbone: It is clear they crapped out an unfinished game. And are now barely supporting it as they make new smaller games. Coh3 is stillborn. It will be meh for at least another 2-4 years. Meaning they killed the whole franchise instead of growing it.
13 Mar 2025, 19:56 PM

Rosbone: For a thing they could fix in minutes. Literally minutes.
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Rosbone: If I did play coh3 and was mainly a skirmish player, I would be pissed and probably stop playing. And it has been like this since release. Why? I would not tell my friends to buy a game I am not even playing. Lost sales and angered users.
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Rosbone: I am just saddened how Relic keeps hurting themselves by not fixing 5 minute things like menus. Why anger users with stuff that could be fixed in minutes???
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Rosbone: So it was a systemic failure across multiple disciplines and check points.
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Rosbone: Knowing how companies work, I imagine a new hire making the menus. The API they are using is complicated and things were hard to figure out. But at some point QA or management should have addressed these things. Usually within 6 months of starting.
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theekvn: + 33% dmg rear hit was best deal ever.
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theekvn: KT just need fuel debuf from 15% to 50%, Ele arc of fire- aim time improve and they are good to go
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theekvn: and please Rosbone,I know you hate Coh3 to the bone due to your drama with relic, Still, Can you give a proper point of view instead of raging ?.
12 Mar 2025, 03:54 AM

theekvn: you rather go 76 to unity Whizbang 2.0 or go home.
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theekvn: also US tier 4 is 145f and Sherman pen 140 nerf is too much.
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theekvn: Whizbang lock behind CP, meanwhile stuka is techtree progress
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KoRneY: @aerafield It's possible that it is underpriced for what it is capable of now, no need to go full retard and take it immediately as a massive problem. It costs 60 more MP than a pz.3 and in 2v2 the barrage can be quite strong.
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OKSpitfire: I do like that they made the Stuka more expensive instead of nerfing it into the ground though. Found it pretty unsatisfying to use before that buff a while back....
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Lady Xenarra: WTB Whizzbang for DAK instead of Stuka, 5 fuel cheape, 60MP more expensive and next to impossible to dive.

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