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I never said it wasn't a TD.
1. It's classified as a medium tank, and out of all the medium tanks in the game it's the least mobile. It has the acceleration of a Katyusha which is only .6 more than the USF ambulance lol.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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It's a tank hunter friend.
It's a tank hunter
friend.
Panther was a German medium tank deployed during World War II from mid-1943 to the end of the European war in 1945. It was intended as a counter to the Soviet T-34, and as a replacement for the Panzer III and Panzer IV. While never replacing the latter, it served alongside it and the heavier Tiger I until the end of the war. While the Panther is considered one of the best tanks of World War II due to its excellent firepower and protection, it was less impressive in terms of mobility, reliability, and cost.
I myself bought 14 OKW factions during a Steam sale last year for alt accounts
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I don't even need to say anything more.
Please stop. Please stop as imagining a completely fictional term and slapping it to a unit is not only ridiculous and nonsensical but also irritating as hell.
MAkes sense that u can shit post to 2k in just a month
Nice to know that politicians are bred fact twisters and liars. (based on ur logic, im not calling u a liar)
Panther isnt a tank hunter Jager in German means hunter
Germany made Jagdpanther pacifically to kill hunt and kill tanks same with Elephant ( both have Jager in their name)
a panther's partial role was to kill tanks
Thats just like trying to say an F-18 hornet is a dedicated air intercept fighter. This makes no sense since it is a multi-role fighter
You ever get tired of being wrong?
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And the Panther could take out T-34s from 3km away. KVs were easily defeated by Panzer IVs and StuGs from a km. Yet that´s not ingame.
85mms defeating KTs now? Maybe from the sides, definitely not from the front. Even Panthers with almost half the armor bounced 85mm without a problem. You are maybe referring to a Russian testing, where they would shoot some hundreds of shells on a plate until it succumbs.
In this game Russian armor gets off pretty well considering the disastrous losses they actually took. Losses so high that they would totally cripple the tank arm of any other nation.
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Not all medium tanks are TDs, not all TD's are medium tanks, but the Jadgpanzer is a Tank Destroyer build on the chassis of a medium tank.
Or do you think the Elefant and Jadgtiger aren't heavy tanks lmao.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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The Panther's lower caliber main gun and smaller shell made it ineffective versus enemy infantry in real life, it's purpose was fighting tanks.
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
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LOL at ur attempt to Re-write history
You honestly dont think a tank crew is dumb enough to only pack AP rounds? HE rounds were created for REASON
In CoH2?
They are not, they are heavy tank destroyers, nothing more, nothing less.
I'll let someone with a patience for special patients to explain mechanical differences between tanks and tank destroyers in coh2.
You are arguing semantics for the sake of arguing or making a save to not look like an idiot after making another bs comment that was disregarded by your own post.
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OMFG, how did the Soviets manage to take Berlin then?With overwhelming capabilities to replace men and equipment. By taking horrendous losses and being able to replace them.
The "loser of WW2" argument is bullshit. You are ignoring that the USA, Commonwealth, Soviet Union together formed an alliance. That´s three world powers combined. Losing a war can have a lot of causes - not only effectiveness of the army. If that was the sole factor in the equation Germany would have won. Numbers, supplies and industrial capacities win wars.
Make those changes and you'll never hear a Soviet player complain again, or simply stop with the "historical" arguments that somehow try to make the loser of both World Wars into an army of super heroes.
An anecdote. In the whole picture the Russians lost multiple amounts of vehicles. No other country ever lost as many tanks.
Here is an actual (albeit atypical) engagement of 3 T34/85's vs 3 KT's. Try to duplicate this in COH2.
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The "loser of WW2" argument is bullshit. You are ignoring that the USA, Commonwealth, Soviet Union together formed an alliance. That´s three world powers combined. Losing a war can have a lot of causes - not only effectiveness of the army. If that was the sole factor in the equation Germany would have won. Numbers, supplies and industrial capacities win wars.
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And the Panther could take out T-34s from 3km away. KVs were easily defeated by Panzer IVs and StuGs from a km. Yet that´s not ingame.
85mms defeating KTs now? Maybe from the sides, definitely not from the front. Even Panthers with almost half the armor bounced 85mm without a problem. You are maybe referring to a Russian testing, where they would shoot some hundreds of shells on a plate until it succumbs.
In this game Russian armor gets off pretty well considering the disastrous losses they actually took. Losses so high that they would totally cripple the tank arm of any other nation.
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IS-2s should be one shotting garbage krupp steel box tanks with 122mm HE rounds, spalling on the first shot and shattering into a hundred pieces*If they hit *If they don´t get finished off by Panther etc. with one shot themselves *If they manage to get out more than 2 shots per minute.
Luckily for axis players, relic secretly wishes germany won WW2 and propagates the panzer superiority myth
"myth"
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If only is-2 (as well as all later USSR tanks which start to become acceptable in terms of quality) were in use before war decided under Kursk. Soviet tank crewman were heroes who fought superior german tanks without most basic training on shitty tanks, and anybody who says otherwise needs to learn some history.
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With overwhelming capabilities to replace men and equipment. By taking horrendous losses and being able to replace them.
The "loser of WW2" argument is bullshit. You are ignoring that the USA, Commonwealth, Soviet Union together formed an alliance. That´s three world powers combined. Losing a war can have a lot of causes - not only effectiveness of the army. If that was the sole factor in the equation Germany would have won. Numbers, supplies and industrial capacities win wars.
An anecdote. In the whole picture the Russians lost multiple amounts of vehicles. No other country ever lost as many tanks.
It´s funny how you actually started the realism discussion here. Then you blame me for challenging your bullcrap about 85mms finishing off KTs frontally.
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You know the T-34 and KV-1 were superior to the German tanks at the start of the war right? Problem was crews had no idea how to use them and massive amounts of tactical failures.
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also the russians didn't have very many. they did have like 10000 crappy light tanks though
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You know the T-34 and KV-1 were superior to the German tanks at the start of the war right? Problem was crews had no idea how to use them and massive amounts of tactical failures.
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