WHAT ABOUT SU85 ??
6 Apr 2015, 20:48 PM
#1
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Pls relic give some love to this unit, a little buff to pen or damage
6 Apr 2015, 20:51 PM
#2
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Permanently BannedNah, been using it lately. Performs extremely well for cost at vet 2 and 3. Not too difficult to keep them alive till then. The only real threat an su85 has are panzershreck rushes and panther rushes. Or blitzing vet 2 tigers. All of which requires them to come to you.
Dual su85s > armor as we know it.
I will agree its mobility is painful. But the thing can't be the perfect armor killing machine for only 125 fuel.
Dual su85s > armor as we know it.
I will agree its mobility is painful. But the thing can't be the perfect armor killing machine for only 125 fuel.
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axis
6 Apr 2015, 20:51 PM
#3
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Just mobility. Its DPS is actually REALLY good. Just getting from Point A to Point B is painful.
The PTRS's are fine as they are. Whenever i'm up against Guard Infantry, I always have to be careful with my vehicles or the Guards will completely destroy them. Good range, good damage and fairly cheap; if anything, the PTRS should nerfed since it's ridiculously good for the price. Even in the hands of Conscripts, the PTRS's are extremely potent.
6 Apr 2015, 20:53 PM
#4
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Pen and damage output are fine, tbh. It minces mediums and does a number on heavies.
Only problem with it is its manoeuvrability now that turbobiltz rocket packs have been re-introduced. And mildly nerfed to only superblitz, oh no.
Its turn speed and ground resistance are just the worst.
Only problem with it is its manoeuvrability now that turbobiltz rocket packs have been re-introduced. And mildly nerfed to only superblitz, oh no.
Its turn speed and ground resistance are just the worst.
6 Apr 2015, 20:57 PM
#5
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An acceleration buff and also a buff to it's rotation speed is welcome.
6 Apr 2015, 20:58 PM
#6
Posts: 45
should be at least mobility < dmg guys 
6 Apr 2015, 20:58 PM
#7
Posts: 45
An acceleration buff and also a buff to it's rotation speed is welcome.
or this
6 Apr 2015, 20:59 PM
#8
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Pls relic give some love to this unit, a little buff to pen or damage
lol? this unit is just fine
6 Apr 2015, 21:02 PM
#9
Posts: 476
OK, a small rotation and speed buff would be good, and vet 1 ability just sucks when compared to Jackson and Jagdpanzer. But vet 0 focus sight is awesome.
Also going T4 in 1v1 is hard, cause it lacks reliable infantry counter and lategame harassment unit (t34 and t70).
Also going T4 in 1v1 is hard, cause it lacks reliable infantry counter and lategame harassment unit (t34 and t70).
6 Apr 2015, 21:09 PM
#10
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lol? this unit is just fine
Its not used very often and I think that is due to a problem with the unit itself . If it had a more solid role as a tank destroyer like jackson or m10 could be considered by more players, i think
6 Apr 2015, 21:17 PM
#11
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SU85 is gud especially now dat KT armor has been nurfed. KT change alone opens up the possibility for non-callin play.
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6 Apr 2015, 21:19 PM
#12
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Permanently Bannedincrease mobility.
DATS IT
DATS IT
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
6 Apr 2015, 21:27 PM
#13
Posts: 655
Permanently BannedLol the SU85 is already a beastly unit that preforms it's role incredibly effectively vs everything short of KTs, and even vs them it preforms reasonably now due to the KT nerf. So what's next, make an SU85 able to 1v1 an Elefant?
SU-85 is great as it is, particularly once it hits vet 3. I remember a game I played where I (haphazardly) bltiz'd a panther straight into a vet2 one on Rails around the big house corner, and as it turned to pursue/fire as I reversed, it pretty much fired 1 shell per second, each that hit, which all except the last one fired as I moved out of range, penetrated. Dat RNG reload speed.
SU-85 is great as it is, particularly once it hits vet 3. I remember a game I played where I (haphazardly) bltiz'd a panther straight into a vet2 one on Rails around the big house corner, and as it turned to pursue/fire as I reversed, it pretty much fired 1 shell per second, each that hit, which all except the last one fired as I moved out of range, penetrated. Dat RNG reload speed.
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6 Apr 2015, 21:27 PM
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I find it pretty alright against everything except JP4 and KT.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
6 Apr 2015, 21:31 PM
#15
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Permanently BannedI find it pretty alright against everything except JP4 and KT.
Yeah, I forgot about JP4 but that's only because it suffers from same thing all AT has vs it, it's very small target size. New PTRS meta solves that though OpieOP
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6 Apr 2015, 21:42 PM
#16
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i remember beta su85.
shiver.
shiver.
6 Apr 2015, 21:46 PM
#17
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Permanently Bannedi remember beta su85.
shiver.
and.. What the fuck does this have to do with anything?
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
6 Apr 2015, 22:19 PM
#18
Posts: 612
well I believe with the nerf to Blitz and KT the SU-85 should be in a pretty nice spot. Call in meta casts a huge shadow however...
6 Apr 2015, 22:23 PM
#19
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SU-85 is at fine spot right now IMO.
Pros:
1) Forces enemy medium armor to pull back if used with spotters at proper range.
2) Unloads tonns of DPS against less mobile heavies.
3) In the same tier as Katys.
Cons:
1) Dies to Pz.IV if unsupported, or AT nade failed to penetrate frontal armor.
2) Have 0 AI capabilities so it suffers from handheld AT.
3) Leads to passive/reactive play
4) Comes quite late, so you can't rely on it to counter light vehicles
So, it is a good specialist unit that requires support to fulfill its task (combined arms approach) with low shock value (pure AT) and good late game potential (great veterancy bonuses).
Pros:
1) Forces enemy medium armor to pull back if used with spotters at proper range.
2) Unloads tonns of DPS against less mobile heavies.
3) In the same tier as Katys.
Cons:
1) Dies to Pz.IV if unsupported, or AT nade failed to penetrate frontal armor.
2) Have 0 AI capabilities so it suffers from handheld AT.
3) Leads to passive/reactive play
4) Comes quite late, so you can't rely on it to counter light vehicles
So, it is a good specialist unit that requires support to fulfill its task (combined arms approach) with low shock value (pure AT) and good late game potential (great veterancy bonuses).
6 Apr 2015, 22:25 PM
#20
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and.. What the fuck does this have to do with anything?
any of the proposed changes revert the su85 closer to that state. i don't think anyone wants that.
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