The B4 and Commander roulette

Jump back to quoted post21 Mar 2015, 10:20 AMAustralian Magic

You dont need KT to counter IS2.
Panther can do it very well since it has better range.

You can also combine KT with pak 43. KT+pak can easily counter 2 IS2s.
Not to mention that you will get IS2 around 25min while in 4v4 can hit the field around 15. By the time second IS2 arrives you can get a Panther. Even in 1v1 2 IS2s are facing KT and Panther so I have no idea how did you figure out that OKW can get only 1 KT and nothing more.

In fact you dont need anything more. In 1v1 Ive killed many IS2 with pak 43 doctrine (Ostheer one with railway-artillery).

Jump back to quoted post21 Mar 2015, 14:15 PMRemi

If all things are even, the soviet player will be able to field two IS-2's while the OKW player is still on his first panther and waiting for the KT. Add in the fact volks vaporise trying to kill an IS-2 and the raketenwerfer decrews in like two DShK bursts and you have a very uneven matchup.

Jump back to quoted post21 Mar 2015, 15:07 PMAustralian Magic

But then you can get Forticifation doctrine and surprise IS2 with Pak43

2 Panthers vs 2 IS2s

Or Panther vs 2 IS2s and trying to survive next 3-5mins to get KT.

And Volks dont vanish. Volley - retreat - no losses.

Jump back to quoted post21 Mar 2015, 17:51 PMRemi

Fortifications isn't a stock commander like Shock rifle, it's DLC so is irrelevant.

Jump back to quoted post21 Mar 2015, 17:51 PMRemi

Fortifications isn't a stock commander like Shock rifle, it's DLC so is irrelevant.

Jump back to quoted post21 Mar 2015, 17:56 PMAlexzandvar

Also fails to mention the fact the Pak43 doesn't work on every map either.

Jump back to quoted post21 Mar 2015, 18:21 PMAustralian Magic

...
And which maps do you mean?

Jump back to quoted post21 Mar 2015, 18:21 PMAustralian Magic

So....? I already have 3 of them from drops.



And which maps do you mean?

Jump back to quoted post21 Mar 2015, 18:25 PMAlexzandvar

Well, first off the strength of the Pak43 is it can shoot through shot blockers to balance the fact it has a very fragile crew. Then on top of that small maps allow artillery to reach and kill it very easily.

Large open maps don't work well with it because it's exposed and it can't cover enough area of the map, and it's slow turning speed means it's the most effective when it's covering a area with lanes and pathing blockers, not open fields.

The Pak43 excels were the Jadgtiger and Elefant don't, specifically Urban maps and or maps with lots of shotblockers and tight corners.

Jump back to quoted post21 Mar 2015, 18:37 PMAustralian Magic

Somehow I find Pak43 amazing on wide/open map like Minsk Pocket.

Jump back to quoted post21 Mar 2015, 17:51 PMRemi

Fortifications isn't a stock commander like Shock rifle, it's DLC so is irrelevant.