Fixing Early Game USF vs Ost

Jump back to quoted post7 Mar 2015, 06:44 AMAustralian Magic

Use 222 to counter M20.
Im more afraid of AA than M20.
Ostheer faction is not one squad behind.
First tier costs 80mp I guess so its 2 Rifles =2 grens +tier.

Yes, grens are worse than Rifles and they should be.

In fact my biggest problem is AA truck, not Rifles.
Mortar can do wonders against Rifles blob.

Jump back to quoted post7 Mar 2015, 10:01 AMm00nch1ld

grens are 4 and rifles are 5 and you think grens should be worse in the game where its so easy to lose squads.
And yes Ost is behind. Build a tier, build a gren and by that time you already capped with RE and got 2 rifles out. Now do the math! Not considering you have to retreat your pio squad to build another tier.

Jump back to quoted post6 Mar 2015, 23:14 PMNathanm465

I am pretty sick op people who still think that Relic will do anything about these situations.

Jump back to quoted post7 Mar 2015, 11:29 AMluvnest

And I'm sick of people like you. Didn't you say you would leave the game? Doesn't really matter. If you don't like the game or the developers, then just leave. If you feel like discussing here doesn't really matter, why would you bother coming to the forums in the first place? Don't be a whiny kid coming to the forums regulary anyway and tell everybody how bad Relic is and how they won't change. Grow some backbone and move on or just remain silent if you don't have anything to say.

Jump back to quoted post7 Mar 2015, 09:27 AMdasheepeh

I thought you quit the game? Why are you still here spreading your toxicity?

Jump back to quoted post7 Mar 2015, 11:29 AMluvnest

And I'm sick of people like you. Didn't you say you would leave the game? Doesn't really matter. If you don't like the game or the developers, then just leave. If you feel like discussing here doesn't really matter, why would you bother coming to the forums in the first place? Don't be a whiny kid coming to the forums regulary anyway and tell everybody how bad Relic is and how they won't change. Grow some backbone and move on or just remain silent if you don't have anything to say.

Ontopic:
Katitof is right. The best thing you can do is to adjust the maps, and make things like HMG42 more reliable. Make the 222 a bit more resitant to small arms fire and fix teching for Ostheer (needs to go in line with Soviet teching aswell then).

Jump back to quoted post7 Mar 2015, 11:51 AMm00nch1ld

Youre totally right but im afraid he is right too.

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2015, 14:50 PMNathanm465

Uhm am I the whiner or are the other hundreds of people who keep starting threads like this the whiners? For all I know I am telling the truth about relic and the game. People will circle around it, yet they can't face the fact that relic will not change anything if it is a major change. Truth does not represent whining.

Sure I have made some whiney threads here and there, we all have. But saying that I leave a game, never said for good or for just a while, will immediately render my option to look through and respond in these forums obsolete? That isn't right my friend.

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2015, 15:16 PMGluhoman

I afraid your changes for USF kill this faction to end. USF must be strong at early game, in late game you just need to blob, because rifles are rubbish in late, or you need to for airborne. We need to go deeper and change design of USF.

Jump back to quoted post7 Mar 2015, 11:18 AMAustralian Magic

Ralic made Rifles best opening infantry for some reason. But later, because of upgrades, Grens will become more powerful, unless double 1919.

I dont deny cap powier in first few mins. I said about number of squads which in fact is equal. Rifles arrive faster than Grens, but about 4min you will have same number of units.

And you are wrong. Second rifles squad hits the field at 0:58. Second Grens squad at 1:03. So it's just 5secs when USF player has one squad more not like you said that USF player has 2 squads by the time your first grens squad hits the field.

But lets be clear. OST struggles vs USF and tech is broken.

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2015, 15:55 PMBrickTop

i hate that thought that one faction should be stronger at early game and other one is better at late game. And yes game need deeper changes instead of buffing some early game units