soviet vs okw matchup

Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2015, 17:44 PMQueenRatchet123

Maxim spam is a really bad strat. very easy to counter

Mortar halftrack

flanks

falls/jaegers

motor hallftrack

luchs

Stuka

hell even a mortor

Jump back to quoted post23 Jan 2015, 09:44 AMJohnnyB

And what is the best strategy for 2v2 as soviets currently? I'm curios about your opinion.

Jump back to quoted post23 Jan 2015, 09:44 AMJohnnyB

And what is the best strategy for 2v2 as soviets currently? I'm curios about your opinion.

Jump back to quoted post21 Jan 2015, 01:41 AMEnkidu

Uh, a t-34 beats a puma in a slug fest but the puma can win with its turret lock ability or by kiting. You don't bounce T-34 shots on a puma, but you can miss. Maybe that's what you experienced?

Jump back to quoted post21 Jan 2015, 01:38 AMJaigen

Armour front or rear means nothing when it comes to the hp of an unit. the shot either penetrates or not and then it does damage. the puma has 400 hp and needs 3 shots to be taken out by the t-34 that does 160 damage. the puma itself does 120 damage and needs to fire at the t-34 6 times as the puma's gun does 120 damage and the t-34 has 640 hp.

Jump back to quoted post24 Jan 2015, 22:13 PMSgtBulldog

But chance of penetration is still bigger against the rear of tanks and vehicles? Or has this been reworked totally? Or why do we then have floating text saying 'rear armour hit' if it makes no difference?

Jump back to quoted post24 Jan 2015, 22:13 PMSgtBulldog

But chance of penetration is still bigger against the rear of tanks and vehicles? Or has this been reworked totally? Or why do we then have floating text saying 'rear armour hit' if it makes no difference?

Jump back to quoted post24 Jan 2015, 22:09 PMSgtBulldog

In that case the T34 misse an awfull lot. It happened more than once or twice, which is why I started wondering if it is with the Puma armour.

Did noone else experienc this?

Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2015, 17:12 PMAlexzandvar

Funny how Ciez is getting shouted down now that he's breaking the narrative that OKW is somehow unbeatable. Trust me, OKW and Soviets are just about on the same playing field with Soviets having the early/mid game advantage.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2015, 04:15 AMvan Voort

He's correct

T1 is very strong versus OKW as they have no real counter to clown cars until they get their first shrek squad and it's a long wait for 90 MUN and then you have build time.

A Raketen does not counter clown cars


Penals are also one of the few things early game that can damage a truck once it is setup

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2015, 06:53 AMEnkidu

I don't think OKW is op in the sense that they're unbeatable, I just think that they're extremely boring to play as and often frustrating to play against. Volks and ober spam into KT is completely beatable but has to be one of the lamest strats ever to fight. I had a pair of vet 3 su-85s bounce 12 shots in a row (yes I counted) in a team game with friends earlier and while we still won because of early vp dominance, that feeling when OKW starts to vet is just ugly. It was a 2v2 with just friends playing eachother, but even in friendly games like that I get a bad taste in my mouth.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2015, 04:15 AMvan Voort

He's correct

T1 is very strong versus OKW as they have no real counter to clown cars until they get their first shrek squad and it's a long wait for 90 MUN and then you have build time.

A Raketen does not counter clown cars


Penals are also one of the few things early game that can damage a truck once it is setup

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2015, 00:30 AMJaigen

Then you have a case of bad rotten luck. did you do your annual goat sacrifice to the RNG god? if not do so! technically the puma is slightly more difficult to hit then the standard p4 but nothing that would adversely affect the accuracy of the t-34 midrange.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2015, 04:15 AMvan Voort

He's correct

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2015, 04:15 AMvan Voort

T1 is very strong versus OKW as they have no real counter to clown cars until they get their first shrek squad and it's a long wait for 90 MUN and then you have build time.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2015, 04:15 AMvan Voort

A Raketen does not counter clown cars

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2015, 04:15 AMvan Voort

Penals are also one of the few things early game that can damage a truck once it is setup

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2015, 20:48 PMPurlictor

Not necessarily. He's only talking about 2v2, and even then it's extremely questionable.



You mean the same way that there is no real counter to the flakHT if your opponent goes T1?



Why not? God forbid you actually have to spend resources on a unit that can keep you safe from a scout car. You only need to get a single shot off to keep it at bay. Sure, it won't kill it, but it gives you enough time to get to schrecks. The kubel is the same; not killable in the early game, you can only limit the damage it does until it gets hard countered by AT.



This is almost irrelevant. If you go T1 for snipers you have 0 pushing power, no way you're going to be able to take out a truck. Show me a high level replay of penals somehow being able to take down a truck in the early game and I'll show you a match where the OKW completely fucked up.