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[Speculation thread] So what's next Relic?

4 Jan 2015, 13:48 PM
#61
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Jadgpanther for Ostheer, SU-100 for Soviets. Rocket Sherman for USF, werblwerfer for OKW.
4 Jan 2015, 16:41 PM
#62
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Maybe reduce RNG a bit Relic??? Getting really tired of those kamikaze planes falling from the sky :/

And try to achieve this:

https://www.facebook.com/unofficialcoh2/photos/pb.291909464230266.-2207520000.1420389622./430564313698113/?type=3&theater
4 Jan 2015, 17:04 PM
#63
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all those plane crashes are a teaser for the japanese faction people
4 Jan 2015, 18:01 PM
#64
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This game need RNG plane, becouse it was be boring.
4 Jan 2015, 20:24 PM
#65
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Maybe reduce RNG a bit Relic??? Getting really tired of those kamikaze planes falling from the sky :/

And try to achieve this:

https://www.facebook.com/unofficialcoh2/photos/pb.291909464230266.-2207520000.1420389622./430564313698113/?type=3&theater


All small arms captured from real weapons? Why the fuck is the FG42 than so fucked up?
4 Jan 2015, 21:52 PM
#66
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This game need RNG plane, becouse it was be boring.


Needs it because of E-sports :snfPeter:
4 Jan 2015, 22:42 PM
#67
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Units? Well Brits would be brand new (lets have Comet heavy tanks - 102mm main gun - to shake things up)


Well, the Comet had a maximum of 102mm of armor somewhere on its turret. It was armed with a fancy 77mm HV cannon that was pretty powerful. They were still classified as Cruisers and would be a slightly weaker and lighter armored pseudo panther, more or less. Its only a bit bigger than its little brother, the Cromwell.



Some Canadian armor:


Brand new "Brits" -Commonwealth I would like. Heavy armored infantry tanks to soak up damage followed by Cruiser tanks to knock out enemy armor. But infantry tanks still bite; The Mark VII Churchill was the main late war infantry tank, and it was armed with a sufficient 75mm (in which models before had 2/6 pounders).
5 Jan 2015, 08:46 AM
#68
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jump backJump back to quoted post2 Jan 2015, 15:16 PMUGBEAR


this, Su-100 and T-34/85 and DP28 as non-doctrinal, using a 1942 weapon fight against late 1944 German is very boring.

Ostheer needs tier cost reduction(T4), and call-in rework.


I think Relic dont know different 1942 vs 1944 :snfBarton:. I am so sad, becouse soviets have so many light tanks, armored car and we dont see tham in game.
5 Jan 2015, 09:14 AM
#69
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jump backJump back to quoted post2 Jan 2015, 15:16 PMUGBEAR
this, Su-100 and T-34/85 and DP28 as non-doctrinal, using a 1942 weapon fight against late 1944 German is very boring.


That's just because the Soviet and Wehrmacht factions are based in early 1944 while the USF and OKW are based in late 1944. It's a side-effect of faction mixing.
6 Jan 2015, 14:58 PM
#70
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I am totally not intrested in Italy and dont understand why someone would be.

Therefore I suppose Pershing MUST roll in in the game.

OKW must be nerfed so its 50/50 in automatch, not like its now 90 play as axis and 10% allies

USF must get a buff
6 Jan 2015, 15:01 PM
#71
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USF are already extremely powerful against Ostheer, buffing them will only make it worse. The WFA factions should be more put in line with the vanilla ones and visa versa. Rather than nerf one, balance them all.

And yes an Italian faction would not work for the same reason a Japanese one wouldn't. Poor infantry, little modern equipment,and shit tanks.
6 Jan 2015, 15:14 PM
#72
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I am totally not intrested in Italy and dont understand why someone would be.



I'm not that interested in the Winter War in Finland but I totally dig why others might be. Duh.

Italy = the only significant pre D-Day Allied campaign (Far East notwithstanding, yeah there's North Afrika but I see that as contiguous with the Italian campaign TBH).

Multinational forces. German paras - Green Devils. Free Polish infantry along with Indians and ANZAC troops. Massive US army.

Iconic battles (Anzio / Cassino / Gothic Line) and diverse operational scenarios (beach landings, mountain warfare, airborne assaults, rolling advances along river valleys).

Epic static and mobile defence on the behalf of the Germans, led by an *air force* officer.

Politiking among the general staff and one of the most vainglorious US generals of all time (Mark Clarke).

Seems pretty obvious why it might be interesting.

6 Jan 2015, 15:22 PM
#73
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USF are already extremely powerful against Ostheer, buffing them will only make it worse. The WFA factions should be more put in line with the vanilla ones and visa versa. Rather than nerf one, balance them all.

And yes an Italian faction would not work for the same reason a Japanese one wouldn't. Poor infantry, little modern equipment,and shit tanks.


How is the USF is extremely powerfull against Ostheer if USF doet not even have heavy armor while ostheer has Tiger, Panther and Elefant
6 Jan 2015, 15:47 PM
#74
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How is the USF is extremely powerfull against Ostheer if USF doet not even have heavy armor while ostheer has Tiger, Panther and Elefant


He is mostly talking on a 1v1 basis. You are always ahead due to teching cost difference, unit effectiveness and map choice mostly.
6 Jan 2015, 16:06 PM
#75
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all those plane crashes are a teaser for the japanese faction people
When it's added, you will hear someone shout from the plane: Tennouheika, Banzai!!!

:snfQuinn::snfQuinn::snfQuinn:
6 Jan 2015, 17:19 PM
#76
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How is the USF is extremely powerfull against Ostheer if USF doet not even have heavy armor while ostheer has Tiger, Panther and Elefant


Shall i cry or just add the troll to blacklist ? :)
6 Jan 2015, 18:13 PM
#77
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OT: i think i posted a while ago that the next expansion(s) for this game might represent the North Africa front, and (i think later) the Pacific theater. Those two theaters saw plenty of ground forces action, and if we take MP balancing out of the equation (which would probably be hell to achieve, seeing how current balance is painful), would be a treat to play. I, for one, would love to see a combined German / Italian faction, facing a rebooted British faction. And the same could be said about Japan Empire versus the US Marines (and please Relic, this time, make the USF more similar to the vCoH USF).

I would also love a German campaign, whatever front / faction are involved, as the only one we got so far was the Market Garden campaign in vCoH, which was a real success (at least for me).
6 Jan 2015, 18:52 PM
#78
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Lots of super cool things they're all excited about, but we won't be told what it is.
6 Jan 2015, 19:24 PM
#79
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The new faction should be soviet marine corps
6 Jan 2015, 19:25 PM
#80
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How do you segue North Africa factions with the existing ones?

The tech base and relative power of units is drastically different.

This is why I think Brits are next, although a very late war 'Assault on Berlin' faction for the Russkis would be awesome.
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