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Whats in a name? Would an obersoldaten by any other name slaughter squads as swiftly?
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The last thing coh 2 needs to be is a haven for nazi sympathetic individuals who find it confusing, that an organization such as the SS does not deserve a place of honour. There is a reason hurlers bunker is gone, many military marches even if not written by the regime have remained silent. If you can't handle it I strongly recommend a client side mod so you can have your swastika banners waving on your menu screen and SS unit markings, thankfully I doubt Duffy needed to read any books to realize this info and I wish you luck with any change. Honourrguard smells of the leibstandarte, nothing to be honoured there.
Two things, rename thread to not sound as if it's even being considered by relic, and two how about a name that reflects the criminal nature of the organization. This thread is one of a couple recently that trouble me in the sense that some misguided folks think the SS were honourable, when chief players in the single largest racial hatred motivated and planned mass murder in human history. If you don't have the imagination to connect the reference of SS with obers as is, I recommend a liberation of Aushwitz map for 1v1, as that would be true representation. Funny how relic were kind enough to omit that from the campaign as the SS fled their crime, so whining about a name makes you pretty ungrateful.
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No... everything related to SS, Waffen SS, SD, SA ect. implies to much blood on the hands, fanatism, torture, anger, pain and death.
The Wehrmacht was not much better, but I prefer the lesser evil.
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Whether or not something is in the game has nothing to do with how bloody its history is and everything to do with what is banned in what countries and therefore unable to be sold there.
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If I were to put a name to the Obersoldaten, it would be Waffen SS, Einsatzgruppen. Now for obvious reasons that can't be marketed in Germany so I guess we're just gonna have to suck it up and not get all butthurt over a computer game's unit name.
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Did you even read the OP at all? Honor Guard was the units original name before it was changed for an unknown reason. Honor Guard is still referenced in the game in several ways, Obersoldaten isn't. I think in your ranting anger you missed that part. Virtually nothing you said was relevant or on-topic. The thread isn't even about a future name change, it's about one that already happened, with a poll asking which one people prefer. Even though the discussion has turned to suggested names instead, conversations evolve, I'm not gonna shoot it down. But you on the other hand, need to calm down.
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I don't think that Honor Guards would be a good idea because there were no guard troops like in the Red Army. There were Elite troops but no guards because the word's origin (at least in German) refers to the monarchies. Guard troops were mostly troops that protected the Zar in the Russian tsardom and were introduced again by Stalin to rise the army's moral. For this the guards aren't called 'Wächter', which would be the direct translation, but 'Garde'which rather means 'royal protector'.
The only German company in WW2 which would somehow 'deserve' the name 'guards' was the Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler. But they did some of the most cruel war crimes in the whole war..
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Honour Guard is bad idea either. There was no such formation in the Wehrmacht. It sounds like a parade formation, not like elite solidiers or veterans. Besides Guards is alread taken.
Obersoldaten is pretty bad but Honor Guard is worse.
Do you even know what Honor Guards do? They're not combat troops at all.
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I'm probably being British about this, but British ceremonial/guard units get used for combat duties as well
Operation Goodwood saw Guards Armoured Division and the Leibstandarte on opposite sides
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