Did your opponent get Bars? Did he throw genades? Armor skirts?
Did he use any ammo at all? No? Then get minesweepers and expect a mine, it's not rocket science.
Why does the M20 mine need to one shot the Puma?
3 Nov 2014, 20:02 PM
#62
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3 Nov 2014, 20:04 PM
#63
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Permanently BannedHeavy anti tank mine kills armored car and now its op?
l2p dude
l2p dude
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
3 Nov 2014, 20:33 PM
#64
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Guys guys, stop trolling, I can reasonably understand the problem and reasonably explain it.
Look, a single ATshot doesn't kill a Kubel, you need 3 ATnade to kill a kubel and... well let's not talk about zooks or I would be banned from that forum, there are minors around there.
So imagine the confusion when a single thing, or single shot, not simply single mine in fact... but a single single from USF faction kills something.
It's just too much for any OKW player. How is it possible. If you want to play something that rape everything around and is almost indestructible, you play OKW, not USF. And from that logic, the m20 mine power is simply an aberration in the design and gameplay of COH2.
Look, a single ATshot doesn't kill a Kubel, you need 3 ATnade to kill a kubel and... well let's not talk about zooks or I would be banned from that forum, there are minors around there.
So imagine the confusion when a single thing, or single shot, not simply single mine in fact... but a single single from USF faction kills something.
It's just too much for any OKW player. How is it possible. If you want to play something that rape everything around and is almost indestructible, you play OKW, not USF. And from that logic, the m20 mine power is simply an aberration in the design and gameplay of COH2.
3 Nov 2014, 20:41 PM
#65
Posts: 218
Derail some more away from the real issue being discussed.
I hope you realize that the vast majority of the people here do not agree with your opinion that M20 mines shouldn't 1-shot Pumas.
Hence, it's just turned into another discussion completely off-topic. Like this post here.
Anyways, it's not as if the USF feels the same "problem" when they lose an early-game unit like the M15A1 or the M20 (both comparable to the OKW's Puma in a strategic mindset) to a single Teller Mine. Yet I'm not seeing anyone complain about that.
3 Nov 2014, 21:04 PM
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That's fine if true, but why does it need to destroy it? Can't it just immobilise/engine damage or take off like 1/2-3/4 health?
It's pretty much GG when that happens, so boring that it can just destroy the game in like 6-7 mins.
Funny that my OKW 1v1 rank is higher than yours
So easy to minesweep everywhere on all the main choke roads, that aren't guarded by 3-4 rifle squads....
Oh wow, you used a gif. Must feel cool.
It is funny that you say that because it's your choice to go with that building for the Puma instead of the Medic Truck and your fault to fall into the M20 Ambush luring you over the mine.
Also you should know that a Puma can win you the game in 6-7 minutes but you are not whining about it.
When the Puma arrives the M20 has only planted 1 pack of mines and upgraded skirts. You should be more careful with your Puma if you run over the only mine in the map.
3 Nov 2014, 21:11 PM
#68
Posts: 1617
Guys guys, stop trolling, I can reasonably understand the problem and reasonably explain it.
Look, a single ATshot doesn't kill a Kubel, you need 3 ATnade to kill a kubel and... well let's not talk about zooks or I would be banned from that forum, there are minors around there.
So imagine the confusion when a single thing, or single shot, not simply single mine in fact... but a single single from USF faction kills something.
It's just too much for any OKW player. How is it possible. If you want to play something that rape everything around and is almost indestructible, you play OKW, not USF. And from that logic, the m20 mine power is simply an aberration in the design and gameplay of COH2.
This so much...but wait...why does the M8 can 1shot squads? Why are the P-47s powerfull? Nurf it!!
3 Nov 2014, 21:59 PM
#69
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The canister shot 1 shots squads when it should just be killing 1 model
29 Jul 2014, 12:16 PM by siuking666:
T34/76 is NOT a joke on my hands; Maybe on your hands you make it suck shit? but on me, No. I can kill a stug with a little micro, go toe to toe with a Panzer 4. Is it a joke? LOL T34/85 is apparently a very good tank. But no one says it "one hit wipe" or elefant penetration; up to a point i think this little medium tank just have too much health and too much firepower with that fuel cost.
3 Nov 2014, 22:19 PM
#70
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Serious question - in a theoretical situation where the M20 mine is nerfed, how would the USF counter an early Puma, given lack of other effective AT at that stage?
3 Nov 2014, 22:34 PM
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with the surrender button, as relic intended
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3 Nov 2014, 22:39 PM
#72
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I hope you realize that the vast majority of the people here do not agree with your opinion that M20 mines shouldn't 1-shot Pumas.
Anyways, it's not as if the USF feels the same "problem" when they lose an early-game unit like the M15A1 or the M20 (both comparable to the OKW's Puma in a strategic mindset) to a single Teller Mine. Yet I'm not seeing anyone complain about that.
m20 doesn't cost 93 fuel (eq) although I do think the m20 should just be left with heavy engine damage.
Let's keep it constructive
3 Nov 2014, 22:43 PM
#74
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The canister shot 1 shots squads when it should just be killing 1 model
50 munition for a single model? Really? Even the zooka is better value than that
3 Nov 2014, 22:58 PM
#75
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Why does the Puma get to own Stuart and fight Shermans effectively? I can't see balance here.
Bad design that's fucking why
Bad design that's fucking why
I bought vCoH on January 3rd, 2007.
Still missing the days of vCoH 1.71. It had it's issues, like paks sniping 57s, and the strafe didn't work, but overall, it was probably the most balanced time in CoH history.
OF ruined that. CoH 2 is....balanced in a nasty way. Everyone has an equal stockpile of gamebreaking bullshit. USA is full of early game BS while the OKW doesn't get its BS until late game. It's just a question of how badly you exploit the faction's shit and how quickly, after a patch, you discover the gaping holes of bullshit Relic leaves. But either way, it's all BS. The only "BS" in vCoH that was gamechanging was the fast m8 vs a bunker.
Still missing the days of vCoH 1.71. It had it's issues, like paks sniping 57s, and the strafe didn't work, but overall, it was probably the most balanced time in CoH history.
OF ruined that. CoH 2 is....balanced in a nasty way. Everyone has an equal stockpile of gamebreaking bullshit. USA is full of early game BS while the OKW doesn't get its BS until late game. It's just a question of how badly you exploit the faction's shit and how quickly, after a patch, you discover the gaping holes of bullshit Relic leaves. But either way, it's all BS. The only "BS" in vCoH that was gamechanging was the fast m8 vs a bunker.
3 Nov 2014, 23:29 PM
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m20 doesn't cost 93 fuel (eq) although I do think the m20 should just be left with heavy engine damage.
puma costs 93 fuel. and spare me that OKW 66% fuel bullshit
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
3 Nov 2014, 23:38 PM
#77
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50 munition for a single model? Really? Even the zooka is better value than that
I thought it was 35, your idea makes it even better!
29 Jul 2014, 12:16 PM by siuking666:
T34/76 is NOT a joke on my hands; Maybe on your hands you make it suck shit? but on me, No. I can kill a stug with a little micro, go toe to toe with a Panzer 4. Is it a joke? LOL T34/85 is apparently a very good tank. But no one says it "one hit wipe" or elefant penetration; up to a point i think this little medium tank just have too much health and too much firepower with that fuel cost.
4 Nov 2014, 03:13 AM
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i lost two M10's to one teller mine a day or so ago. Why does the teller mine need to one shot not just one but TWO m10s?
4 Nov 2014, 03:40 AM
#79
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Explain how OKW can get teller mine.
Do you not have a fucking brain? Use the damn schu mines.
4 Nov 2014, 04:05 AM
#80
Posts: 2070
Guys guys, stop trolling, I can reasonably understand the problem and reasonably explain it.
Look, a single ATshot doesn't kill a Kubel, you need 3 ATnade to kill a kubel and... well let's not talk about zooks or I would be banned from that forum, there are minors around there.
So imagine the confusion when a single thing, or single shot, not simply single mine in fact... but a single single from USF faction kills something.
It's just too much for any OKW player. How is it possible. If you want to play something that rape everything around and is almost indestructible, you play OKW, not USF. And from that logic, the m20 mine power is simply an aberration in the design and gameplay of COH2.
LOL. Too true too true
Im laughing at all the jokes in this thread
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