Kappatch - A minor rebalance mod

Jump back to quoted post1 Nov 2014, 00:10 AMCruzz

Quite reasonable, will keep in mind.


Poll time:

What to do with vehicle death crits?

Currently the situation for (the vast majority of) vehicles is that a shot that brings the unit down to 0 health has these probabilities:

55% chance outright destroy
20% chance out of control
10% main gun destroyed
10% engine damage REAR ARMOR HITS ONLY
5% abandon

Due to the engine damage issue, it effectively is slightly harder to kill a vehicle when firing at its rear because the chance of the death crits will be slightly lower.

So anyway, what do you think should be done to these values? Conditionals can be attached to the crits to an extent, like "abandon, only if has crit x"

Jump back to quoted post1 Nov 2014, 00:10 AMCruzz

Quite reasonable, will keep in mind.


Poll time:

What to do with vehicle death crits?

Currently the situation for (the vast majority of) vehicles is that a shot that brings the unit down to 0 health has these probabilities:

55% chance outright destroy
20% chance out of control
10% main gun destroyed
10% engine damage REAR ARMOR HITS ONLY
5% abandon

Due to the engine damage issue, it effectively is slightly harder to kill a vehicle when firing at its rear because the chance of the death crits will be slightly lower.

So anyway, what do you think should be done to these values? Conditionals can be attached to the crits to an extent, like "abandon, only if has crit x"

Jump back to quoted post1 Nov 2014, 07:05 AMASneakyFox

..has anyone even played this mod yet? i feel like theres so many praises and further suggestions going in, but theres already dozens of balance ideas in there and i dont think anyones actually tried them yet.

Jump back to quoted post1 Nov 2014, 06:33 AMRomeo

For death crits, main gun destroyed and abandonment should only happen if the tank already has engine damage. I'd also remove the engine damage only on rear hits thing and replace it with immobilization when hit from any direction. Out of control should probably only happen on tanks that don't have engine damage.

Jump back to quoted post1 Nov 2014, 06:09 AMLucas Troy

Weird idea that probably isn't very good time:

Abandoned vehicles are cool because of the opportunities they create, but the mechanic is annoying because it can have a huge impact on the game (get a Tiger, for instance) and it's very random.

What if all vehicles, rather than being destroyed, got abandoned first? That way abandonment is still in the game, but in a consistent way that you can plan for.

Of course, you can still always just destroy them right after with attack ground.

To balance this out, maybe abandoned vehicles should have heavy engine damage and destroyed gun? That way capturing them requires lots of effort.

Jump back to quoted post1 Nov 2014, 03:49 AMRetaliation

Is there any potential for a fix that could stop recon thompson paras from dropping weapons they pick up like candy? I'm assuming being able to pick them up is intentional because they only have 3 thompsons.

Possible to fix the USF and OKW's extra vulnerability to death critc of flaming weapons?

What about the crappy Soviet call-in M-42 45mm At gun? I propose it functions like the Puppchen and can get suppressed, retreat and garrison buildings.

Jump back to quoted post1 Nov 2014, 09:33 AMCabreza

It might be interesting to experiment with making abandoned vehicle more predictable. For example, maybe make it a 33% change for the vehicle to be abandoned when it has a damaged engine, 66% chance with a destroyed engine. These values are probably dramatically too high but I like the idea of making abandoned vehicles something a player could actually attempt to influence through at snares and mines. It also makes sense that a vehicle crew wouldn't want to remain in their vehicle once it looses engine power and comes under enemy fire.