Open Beta Changelog
21 Oct 2014, 23:46 PM
#41
Posts: 1891
Adapt to the new changes.
The Fascisti Will Pay.
21 Oct 2014, 23:46 PM
#42
Posts: 954
no call-in changes, and soviet/US structure overhaul, satisfy with other changes, and curious about JT/ISU-152 performance after patch
First off all. Tripwire so gud, 10 ammo for a whole dead squad ? + sight.
Vehicle capture point can win games, blitzkrieg save a tank. Fair Deal i think
21 Oct 2014, 23:49 PM
#43
Posts: 431
I don't know what will now happen to Ostheer in 1 vs 1. WC 51 just got moved to 1 CP because it just wrecked Ostheer in the early game. And now this Pak 40 nerf... I wonder if the faction will survive this.
21 Oct 2014, 23:52 PM
#44
Posts: 6
Permanently BannedI don't know what will now happen to Ostheer in 1 vs 1. WC 51 just got moved to 1 CP because it just wrecked Ostheer in the early game. And now this Pak 40 nerf... I wonder if the faction will survive this.
It wont. M20 vs Ostheer was already broken. Pak 4o was only counter and now reload is nerfed. Just lol
21 Oct 2014, 23:53 PM
#46
Posts: 2693 | Subs: 1
I was hoping for a Bazooka buff and M20 mine price decrease.
M20 mines are super great. No need to make them cheaper.
21 Oct 2014, 23:54 PM
#48
1 Posts: 59
No Wehr or Rus in beta?
Downloaded and installed beta - only two faction playable are the WFA?
Is this in the change log?
Downloaded and installed beta - only two faction playable are the WFA?
Is this in the change log?
22 Oct 2014, 00:13 AM
#50
Posts: 61
Don't worry guys, ninjas won't dissapoint you
I'm sure there are a lot of things missing.
Can anyone explain why Relic does this? Why don't they publish all changes? Do they forget or something?
22 Oct 2014, 00:14 AM
#51
Posts: 8154 | Subs: 2
Kubel is love, Kubel is life.
A real Kubeliever will still believe on the allmighty of the Kubeljesus.
For him shall die, his body will be fuel for the mighty force of OKW.
A real Kubeliever will still believe on the allmighty of the Kubeljesus.
For him shall die, his body will be fuel for the mighty force of OKW.
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
22 Oct 2014, 00:20 AM
#52
Posts: 2053
Because you certainly cant harvest your 5 fuel back from a kubel.
Much nerf, such hurt.
Much nerf, such hurt.
22 Oct 2014, 00:20 AM
#53
Posts: 665
Pros:
-Kubel rendered more manageable. Hopefully no more missing it with AT guns thrice in a row.
-ISU and Jagd change seems decent, at least they will require a minimum of micro this time. Still thing it's more a band-aid than an actual fix, but at least noobs will no longer be able to easily squadwipe with a single ISU.
-Bug fixes, like the Maxim bug, at last.
-PaK nerf I'm not certain about, but at least as US my entire T4 is no longer countered by 1 unit I suppose.
-Improvements to off-maps = great idea.
Cons;
-Still no fix for some OP units (Obers, Soviet snipers primarily)
-Still lots of useless units and/or doctrines in the game (primarily Soviet but by no means exclusively)
-PaK and Kubel nerf will help slightly, but US still needs love. As does Ostheer T4
-Call-in meta is still on, most likely.
-Those weapon team changes might favor Maxims a bit too much, as I read them at least.
Overall, this is one step in the right direction, which is probably much better than the Relic average of one and a half good steps, one bad step.
-Kubel rendered more manageable. Hopefully no more missing it with AT guns thrice in a row.
-ISU and Jagd change seems decent, at least they will require a minimum of micro this time. Still thing it's more a band-aid than an actual fix, but at least noobs will no longer be able to easily squadwipe with a single ISU.
-Bug fixes, like the Maxim bug, at last.
-PaK nerf I'm not certain about, but at least as US my entire T4 is no longer countered by 1 unit I suppose.
-Improvements to off-maps = great idea.
Cons;
-Still no fix for some OP units (Obers, Soviet snipers primarily)
-Still lots of useless units and/or doctrines in the game (primarily Soviet but by no means exclusively)
-PaK and Kubel nerf will help slightly, but US still needs love. As does Ostheer T4
-Call-in meta is still on, most likely.
-Those weapon team changes might favor Maxims a bit too much, as I read them at least.
Overall, this is one step in the right direction, which is probably much better than the Relic average of one and a half good steps, one bad step.
22 Oct 2014, 00:20 AM
#54
Posts: 1221 | Subs: 41
Couple of ninja changes, will take a while to actually shift through the patch so this is very much a work in progress. More tomorrow, perhaps.
Paratrooper lieutenant/captain bonuses removed, accuracy bonus at vet2 nerfed back from 1.4 to 1.25*
Stuart shell shock lost deflection damage (50% --> 0%), reload speed slowed (1.5 --> 1.75), scatter decreased
Pack Howitzer AOE decreased from 6 to 4, scatter reduced
Raketenwerfer can be suppressed
.50 cal vet2 penetration nerfed to be same as vet0 gun (1.5 --> 1 far)
EZ8 400/145 --> 380/140, Armor 215 --> 200
Ostruppen given 1.2 armor
Sherman smoke wind up/wind down removed, reload shortened and scatter reduced.
*Accuracy bonus nerf does not apply to Recon paratroopers
Paratrooper lieutenant/captain bonuses removed, accuracy bonus at vet2 nerfed back from 1.4 to 1.25*
Stuart shell shock lost deflection damage (50% --> 0%), reload speed slowed (1.5 --> 1.75), scatter decreased
Pack Howitzer AOE decreased from 6 to 4, scatter reduced
Raketenwerfer can be suppressed
.50 cal vet2 penetration nerfed to be same as vet0 gun (1.5 --> 1 far)
EZ8 400/145 --> 380/140, Armor 215 --> 200
Ostruppen given 1.2 armor
Sherman smoke wind up/wind down removed, reload shortened and scatter reduced.
*Accuracy bonus nerf does not apply to Recon paratroopers
22 Oct 2014, 00:21 AM
#55
Posts: 2561
Because you certainly cant harvest your 5 fuel back from a kubel.Oh yeah. They can just get that fuel right back if they can get to the wreck. This change was necessary.
Much nerf, such hurt.
22 Oct 2014, 00:25 AM
#56
1 
Posts: 2307 | Subs: 4
Ostruppen given 1.2 armor
Let the games begin. (I hope.)
Tobis "Complete Throw"
Someone asked what my avatar was from... I really don't know.
Defeated Paula and knocked him out of 2v2 Anniversary Cup
Someone asked what my avatar was from... I really don't know.
Defeated Paula and knocked him out of 2v2 Anniversary Cup
22 Oct 2014, 00:26 AM
#57
Posts: 187
some nice changes but im mostly interested in "Long term, we will be addressing faction scaling, how the power of a faction compounds into the late game, and difficulty of play related to Allied army composition. That said, other factors will likely be added to that list as we further investigate some of the challenges players are facing"
Be interesting to know how they plan on addressing this, i.e. unit buffs/changes or faction re-designs.
Be interesting to know how they plan on addressing this, i.e. unit buffs/changes or faction re-designs.
22 Oct 2014, 00:26 AM
#58
9 Posts: 1094 | Subs: 20
Sweet. Especially Bugs & Performance issues. Looking forward to trying it out.
22 Oct 2014, 00:28 AM
#59
Posts: 1595 | Subs: 2
some nice changes but im mostly interested in "Long term, we will be addressing faction scaling, how the power of a faction compounds into the late game, and difficulty of play related to Allied army composition. That said, other factors will likely be added to that list as we further investigate some of the challenges players are facing"
Be interesting to know how they plan on addressing this, i.e. unit buffs/changes or faction re-designs.
I totally missed this line. That is great news.
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22 Oct 2014, 00:29 AM
#60
Posts: 93
Good news.
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