Soviet artillery, or how soviet union win the war ... :D
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Relic took every advantage the soviets had in the war and threw it in the trashIf you are referring to artillery, that´s an issue with every on map artillery in the game - not only the Soviet. 105mm as well as 152mm are under-performing. The B4 howitzer is actually the most useful artillery piece. In team games (and with some doctrines even in a 1v1) however all of them are easily defeated with one recon and bomb.
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If you are referring to artillery, that´s an issue with every on map artillery in the game - not only the Soviet. 105mm as well as 152mm are under-performing. The B4 howitzer is actually the most useful artillery piece. In team games (and with some doctrines even in a 1v1) however all of them are easily defeated with one recon and bomb.
He's referring to the fact that Soviets, in all of their Doctrines, do not have a single off-map artillery strike (incendiary doesn't count). Whereas Wehrmacht have 3 different types in half their Commanders plus Close The Pocket which is the strongest in the game, and OKW have Assault Artillery and and Salvage Artillery, which bring in incredible volumes of artillery fire.
Despite this, massive volumes of artillery was more of a Soviet thing than a German thing, yet they do not get them at all. He may also be referring to the fact that they also get inferior units, but do not get the superior numbers that gave them an advantage IRL as well.
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He's referring to the fact that Soviets, in all of their Doctrines, do not have a single off-map artillery strike (incendiary doesn't count). Whereas Wehrmacht have 3 different types in half their Commanders plus Close The Pocket which is the strongest in the game, and OKW have Assault Artillery and and Salvage Artillery, which bring in incredible volumes of artillery fire.
Despite this, massive volumes of artillery was more of a Soviet thing than a German thing, yet they do not get them at all. He may also be referring to the fact that they also get inferior units, but do not get the superior numbers that gave them an advantage IRL as well.
Well, I think Relic made this game while listening to propaganda from Goebbels.
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best off-map stealth arty=stuka bombing strike.
best off-map, 105mm barrage from scavenge doctrine.
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Basically the Germans get off-map, the Soviets get on-map. Also remember that you get a very big bombing run in a few doctrines, not to mention strafe and incendiary. Incendiary is just as devastating to infantry as standard artillery.
It's not like you even need it. Or did you want to play a game where you just drop artillery after artillery on the enemy and win without firing a single shot? Sheesh. Did you play a lot of Brits in CoH1 eh?
Lastly, if we're talking about realism - Forget realism. It has nothing to do with good gameplay. Or do you want the Germans to have Panzer IIs and heavy howitzers at T2? And the only soviet abilies until 7CP are "retreat / scorch earth"?
TLDR - the less arty this game has - the better.
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Lastly, if we're talking about realism - Forget realism. It has nothing to do with good gameplay. Or do you want the Germans to have Panzer IIs and heavy howitzers at T2? And the only soviet abilies until 7CP are "retreat / scorch earth"?
If it means we get 60 ISUs for evry Jagd Im down with it.
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Above post is always how i felt about the Soviet faction.
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Soviets won the war with artillery? I thought in 1941 they held off the Germans with lines of maxims, with snipers and scout cars to kill off anyone who breached their line. Then they waited until 43-44 when they got their ISU's, t34/85's, and IS-2's. With those they won the war after 3 years of waiting around. At least this is what CoH2 has taught me.
Above post is always how i felt about the Soviet faction.
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Soviets won the war with artillery? I thought in 1941 they held off the Germans with lines of maxims, with snipers and scout cars to kill off anyone who breached their line. Then they waited until 43-44 when they got their ISU's, t34/85's, and IS-2's. With those they won the war after 3 and a half years of waiting around. At least this is what CoH2 has taught me.You forgot about the yearly Red Army Air Force IL-2 Sturmovik support that drop bombs.
Above post is always how i felt about the Soviet faction.
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