OKW has too much Ammo

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2014, 00:31 AMLemonJuice

A big problem with OKW's faction design is that they have literally ONE munitions sink in the early and mid game: PANZERSHREKS

In the late game you have doctrinal artillery that serve as ammo sinks. With increased muni rate, OKW was able to more often use abilities such as grenades, and plant mines etc. The Shrek blob was still a problem because there was literally no other munition sink.

To fix OKW you need to not lower the munitions rate, because all that does is prevent OKW players from using grenades and mines to save for shreks. Instead you need to provide OKW players with different munitions sinks.

Maybe make the Retreat Point upgrade cost 100 munitions instead of manpower, force Obers to UPGRADE to the lmg34, Falls to upgrade to their fg42, additional pioneers at the mech truck require a munitions upgrade, etc etc.

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2014, 00:52 AMSierra

The Shocktroops should only be outfitted with Mosin Nagants and be forced to upgrade to PPSh's, and forced to upgrade to smoke grenades. It's only fair right?

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2014, 00:52 AMSierra

The Shocktroops should only be outfitted with Mosin Nagants and be forced to upgrade to PPSh's, and forced to upgrade to smoke grenades. It's only fair right?

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2014, 00:42 AMPorygon

You count Volks screck are good? They are just supporting AT weapon (with 90 expensive cost), you still need Raketen or other specialist AT unit to kill.
OKW have no good vehicle ensnare (except Falls faust and mines) (Fusis nade is still buggy as hell), if you are not asleep, you won't lose tanks to Volks screck.

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2014, 03:58 AMfrostbite

i thought of an interesting idea. what if every okw truck gave them more munitions. like first building 33% 2nd 66% then last 100%

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2014, 03:58 AMfrostbite

i thought of an interesting idea. what if every okw truck gave them more munitions. like first building 33% 2nd 66% then last 100%

Jump back to quoted post22 Sep 2014, 23:46 PMPorygon

If you are in the alpha, you will know OKW with 66% muni income is bullshit. (even after first buff)
because with the fuel struggle, you can only have 33% muni which is close to nothing.

Sturmpio can never mine, they even struggle to piss out a sweeper, Volks can only getting screcks and never able to spare a nade, not even talk about Falls and Ober special ability and their nades.

Now with conversion OKW can choose 50% muni, 100% muni, or sac fuel for insane amount of muni, which is great for strategical design, you can finally able to choose options, but not sac a hell lot of mines or nades opportunity for a sweeper or stupid screck.


Seriously, WTF with these forum posters, "BECAUSE BY DESIGN", this is NOT a FREAKING valid argument.

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2014, 04:10 AMAchtAchter

Reading the topics here recently makes one think that it's impossible to lose with OKW.

Some commander abilities might need an adjustment, like the recon flare, but decrease the Ammunition and you bring more boredom into a interesting faction.
Some abilities you would simply never use, I can't remember even use one time Zeroing Artillery when OKW had a 66 % muni income.

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2014, 06:53 AMSierra

Panzershreks cost 90 munitions each, 85 if you have the 5% off bulletin. What people are essentially asking for is a global nerf to solve what is basically a non issue. If an OKW player invests into 4-5 squads of Volksgrens with Panzershreks.

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2014, 05:33 AMJohnnyB

Yep, reduce their amo income. And GIVE BACK the former Wurframen, former raketenwerfer, former sturmpios, former obersoldaten, former JLI, former sdkfz AA. Totally agreed.

Or while thinking at OKW your brains are scraming just nurf nurf nurf, without any thought about balance? Cause it seems there are some OKW haters around here.... making from OKW their primary target.

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2014, 08:15 AMAustralian Magic

I have a strange feeling that guys who are defending 100% ammo income (which is against OKW desgin) are the same people who keep saying that USF should not get Pershing cause it's agasint faction design..

Obers and Falls without upgrade are like Paratroopers already equipped with LMGs yet USF need to pay for it.

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2014, 08:15 AMAustralian Magic

I have a strange feeling that guys who are defending 100% ammo income (which is against OKW desgin) are the same people who keep saying that USF should not get Pershing cause it's agasint faction design..

Obers and Falls without upgrade are like Paratroopers already equipped with LMGs yet USF need to pay for it.