Maybe make a recon commander for OKW that has a chance to counter maxim spam and soviet sniper..
sniper team, Smoke nades for volks Scout vehicle, Arty and a fast medium tank like PAnzer III.
Idea "Recon - Commander" - OKW
15 Sep 2014, 22:11 PM
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15 Sep 2014, 22:22 PM
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fallschirmjaeger and, to a lesser extent, JLI are both soft counters to the maxim and sniper. once you spot a sniper next to a structure you can spawn them and quickly kill them or force a retreat and hopefully kill them on their retreat path.
the kubelwagens vet 1 ability is basically maphack.
there are definitely ways around it.
the kubelwagens vet 1 ability is basically maphack.
there are definitely ways around it.
15 Sep 2014, 22:33 PM
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Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
16 Sep 2014, 00:18 AM
#4
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Permanently Bannedfallschirmjaeger and, to a lesser extent, JLI are both soft counters to the maxim and sniper. once you spot a sniper next to a structure you can spawn them and quickly kill them or force a retreat and hopefully kill them on their retreat path.
the kubelwagens vet 1 ability is basically maphack.
there are definitely ways around it.
This is wrong. GOod player will always have building occupied.
16 Sep 2014, 01:04 AM
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so a 'good' player will always have every building on semois occupied? how bout kharkov? or how about ettelbruck?
i've killed many snipers with pre-patch JLI and i've had some success with the fallschirmjager post patch as well. every now and then youll call in on an occupied building, but thats the risk you take when you dont have vision of the building youre trying to call in.
i didnt get to top 10 as OKW by complaining about balance and ignoring advice. you have to learn the tools you have and apply them to your problem.
i've killed many snipers with pre-patch JLI and i've had some success with the fallschirmjager post patch as well. every now and then youll call in on an occupied building, but thats the risk you take when you dont have vision of the building youre trying to call in.
i didnt get to top 10 as OKW by complaining about balance and ignoring advice. you have to learn the tools you have and apply them to your problem.
16 Sep 2014, 01:17 AM
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Permanently BannedJLI is shit now. And is poor man sniper. Ostwind not light tank, and there are no recon options for this doctrine nor a sniper.
16 Sep 2014, 02:08 AM
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tbh if anything its the ostheer that need a commander like that. OKW atleast has the kubelwagen.
16 Sep 2014, 02:32 AM
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i didnt get to top 10 as OKW by complaining about balance and ignoring advice. you have to learn the tools you have and apply them to your problem.
Dang.... Someone just got schooled lol.
16 Sep 2014, 04:13 AM
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Permanently BannedHe is top 10 in 2v2. That easy to do if you have good partner.
16 Sep 2014, 04:19 AM
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2v2 random. with a good partner its much easier to win.
16 Sep 2014, 08:27 AM
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JLI is shit now. And is poor man sniper. Ostwind not light tank, and there are no recon options for this doctrine nor a sniper.
This doctrine is still one of the best OKW has, tbh.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
16 Sep 2014, 09:04 AM
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This doctrine is still one of the best OKW has, tbh.
I'd trade that 100-fuel Ostwind for a stuka or a Panzer IV any day.
16 Sep 2014, 12:01 PM
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This doctrine is still one of the best OKW has, tbh.
I agree, it is one of my most used now for 2v2, the patched JLI might not have the close range firepower they once did, but they seem better at range. Also allowing them to throw the infiltration grenades has given them a means to combat enemies who get too close. The biggest buff though, IMO, is the cost decrease, only 300 MP to spawn allows me call 3-5 a game and they really compliment Volks and Sturms as long range damage.
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16 Sep 2014, 12:07 PM
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I'd trade that 100-fuel Ostwind for a stuka or a Panzer IV any day.
What if I told you that you don't HAVE to use everything from the doctrine you pick up?
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
16 Sep 2014, 12:07 PM
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Don't give them ideas. It'll just end up being all infrared units and IR upgrades.
Example: IR NV upgrade for the King Tiger. ("Aim at the orange blob!")
Example: IR NV upgrade for the King Tiger. ("Aim at the orange blob!")
16 Sep 2014, 12:11 PM
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Don't give them ideas. It'll just end up being all infrared units and IR upgrades.
Example: IR NV upgrade for the King Tiger. ("Aim at the orange blob!")
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16 Sep 2014, 12:11 PM
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Delete, double post.
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16 Sep 2014, 12:41 PM
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What if I told you that you don't HAVE to use everything from the doctrine you pick up?
Hahaha, I like this one.
P.S. I would.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
16 Sep 2014, 12:42 PM
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I agree, it is one of my most used now for 2v2, the patched JLI might not have the close range firepower they once did, but they seem better at range. Also allowing them to throw the infiltration grenades has given them a means to combat enemies who get too close. The biggest buff though, IMO, is the cost decrease, only 300 MP to spawn allows me call 3-5 a game and they really compliment Volks and Sturms as long range damage.
That's actualy how they are used best. Mixed with your base infantry units.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
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