Panzer 4 under preforming
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"The Panzer IV will continue to dominate the T34 in the anti-armor role but will perform worse versus infantry."
However from all my experiences, when a P4 comes head to head with a T34, the deciding factor of the battle really comes down to one factor; which tank gets in the first penetrating shot. This tell me one thing, these tanks are basically even when versing each other.
Although the P4 gets mgs (50muni), the t34's gun is much better verse infantry - I don't know which is better in this case.
The P4 acquires blitz (30muni) at vet one in comparison to the t34's ram - I feel the p4's ability is much better in this scenario.
Finally the p4 can get doctrinal smoke (30muni)
So the question is - Is the P4 higher cost of 25 fuel and 40 man-power justified in comparison to the price and performance of the t-34?
Edit: One thing I left out is that the T-34 has a lot more mobility and is really good at running over units if handled right.
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Relic stated in their last update:I personally think Panzer IV should get a penetration buff while T34 have the same armour as M4A3
"The Panzer IV will continue to dominate the T34 in the anti-armor role but will perform worse versus infantry."
However from all my experiences, when a P4 comes head to head with a T34, the deciding factor of the battle really comes down to one factor; which tank gets in the first penetrating shot. This tell me one thing, these tanks are basically even when versing each other.
Although the P4 gets mgs (50muni), the t34's gun is much better verse infantry - I don't know which is better in this case.
The P4 acquires blitz (30muni) at vet one in comparison to the t34's ram - I feel the p4's ability is much better in this scenario.
Finally the p4 can get doctrinal smoke (30muni)
So the question is - Is the P4 higher cost of 25 fuel and 40 man-power justified in comparison to the price and performance of the t-34?
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The PIV also gets nearly five times the DPS through MGs than the T34.
PIV has insanely good veterancy bonuses. T-34 might as well not have veterancy at all.
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The T34 gun is not better against infantry and hasn't been for months now.
The PIV also gets nearly five times the DPS through MGs than the T34.
PIV has insanely good veterancy bonuses. T-34 might as well not have veterancy at all.
Not saying you are wrong as I don't personally know the stats, but whenever a t-34 lands a 'good shot' it tends to kill 3 men in a squad (on rare occasions 4 kills leading to a potential squad wipe). In comparison a 'good shot' with the p4 will kill 2/3 guys (never once have I squad wiped with one shot from a p4). Also keeping in mind - German infantry are worth more than allied (most of the time)
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What's more vet2 turns this tank into a beast.
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PzIV is definitively not under performing.Somewhat off-topic but how much armour value does the armour skirts provide to the tank?
What's more vet2 turns this tank into a beast.
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PIV is great!
Please delete your posting, German Fan Boy!
lulz, and you're an allied fanboy and no one (except me now) is accusing you, stop picking fights, eh?
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PIV is great!
Please delete your posting, German Fan Boy!
hope youre trolling..
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PIV is great!
Please delete your posting, German Fan Boy!
Lol kid, who are you, the forum gestapo?
OP: As has been stated, the PIV has better veterancy than the T34...but then again, all things being equal, you might just as well invest in a Tiger. In the current meta, I think the strongest role for the PIV is as the goal of a techrush to punish US LT/AAA or Soviet Sniper/Guard play.
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Somewhat off-topic but how much armour value does the armour skirts provide to the tank?
I don't remember exact numbers. Can someone clarify please?
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I don't remember exact numbers. Can someone clarify please?
vet0 armor 180
vet2 armor 1.3x 180 -> 234
if you include 4% armor increase bulleten 243.36
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