Maxim Spam

Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2014, 08:37 AMsteel

By buffing conscripts (giving them more accuracy with vet 2) while reducing weapon crew to 4 men, you would reduce the number of maxim spammers and would see more conscripts strat. Shouldn't core infantry be doing the most of the fighting instead of say 6 Machine guns.

Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2014, 08:59 AMJaigen

This is nonsense argument. support weapons are not supposed to get hit. if you then you have made a mistake. second the mg42 and 34 and functioning perfectly fine despite facing the ami's which can have the highest dps output per popcap in the game.

Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2014, 10:23 AMCannonade

I dont see how changing Cons somehow magically fixes Maxims.
I dont see how nerfing a unit necessarily and for good reason, suddenly magically means another unit needs to buffed.

People seem to be trying to make a "deal" out of fixing a necessary thing.
Its not a deal thing.

Im sure there are ways to change Maxim without having to change Cons.

Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2014, 10:40 AMFrikadelleXXL

The thing is, people spam maxims because Sovjets lack of early game infantry power. If you fix cons, sovjet has more opportunities instead of spamming only maxims. It's good for the gameplay

Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2014, 10:58 AMCannonade

Weird logic.

"Buffing Cons magically fixes Maxims".

Oo

Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2014, 11:02 AMKatitof

You don't really understand why people use maxims in the first place, do you?

Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2014, 12:29 PMausterlitz

Utterly false argument..shocks counter all axis infantry with smoke save obersoldaten .

Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2014, 12:45 PMKatitof

Smoke don't do damage like axis smoke nades and smoke doesn't root your troops in place.

Why are you standing still, waiting for shocks?

Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2014, 12:45 PMKatitof

Smoke don't do damage like axis smoke nades and smoke doesn't root your troops in place.

Why are you standing still, waiting for shocks?

Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2014, 13:06 PMsteel

Basically buff cons, nerf maxim crew size and maybe effectiveness as well but maybe give slightly larger arc?

Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2014, 13:12 PMausterlitz

U can't fire LMGs on the move,on the move ur fodder for shocks.

Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2014, 13:19 PMCannonade

Why buff Cons?

The point is to nerf Maxims.

Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2014, 13:19 PMCannonade

Why buff Cons?

The point is to nerf Maxims.

Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2014, 13:19 PMCannonade

Why buff Cons?

The point is to nerf Maxims.

Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2014, 13:37 PMsteel

It's a very slight buff to cons if they get better accuracy at vet2. If cons are better then you can nerf the maxims and less people will rely on MG spam.

Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2014, 13:31 PMgary.giles71

As a pure Russian player with average abilities who uses maxims and shocks... I see extremes in German players. Newbs with no micro who run straight into the arc, suppressed and mortared and then good players who just flank you with superior micro and with the changes to rotation you have to instantly retreat or lose the gun. These players will beat you before you can call in the shocks troops and you can guarantee you have just lost the fuel war all before 2CP. Maxims need an interference troop such as shocks to truly shine. Still what is considered spam ... I start with 2 Maxim, then a mortar then build another maxim to push an area of the map. Hopefully by then I can call in a shock or I build another mortar. I'm thinking I should change it up to a conscript after the first maxim to run interference earlier. So is that spam or combined arms? It certainly isn't a blob as your maxims are spread out or you have no map presence.

Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2014, 13:31 PMgary.giles71

As a pure Russian player with average abilities who uses maxims and shocks... I see extremes in German players. Newbs with no micro who run straight into the arc, suppressed and mortared and then good players who just flank you with superior micro and with the changes to rotation you have to instantly retreat or lose the gun. These players will beat you before you can call in the shocks troops and you can guarantee you have just lost the fuel war all before 2CP. Maxims need an interference troop such as shocks to truly shine. Still what is considered spam ... I start with 2 Maxim, then a mortar then build another maxim to push an area of the map. Hopefully by then I can call in a shock or I build another mortar. I'm thinking I should change it up to a conscript after the first maxim to run interference earlier. So is that spam or combined arms? It certainly isn't a blob as your maxims are spread out or you have no map presence.