Ill mail you my used toilet paper. Im giving you it for free, and you didnt want it, it costs you nothing, you wouldnt have my waste otherwise, and i suppose you have no right to complain tons of it was dumped on your lawn?
lol
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Ill mail you my used toilet paper. Im giving you it for free, and you didnt want it, it costs you nothing, you wouldnt have my waste otherwise, and i suppose you have no right to complain tons of it was dumped on your lawn?
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Look at half the threads on this forum, or the basic economy systems for any successful free to play game. Personally I just want no duplicates with a progression system linked to rank or something else that can be easily tracked. I would even be ok with bypassing some of the progression (except commanders) by buying xp.
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Ill mail you my used toilet paper. Im giving you it for free, and you didnt want it, it costs you nothing, you wouldnt have my waste otherwise, and i suppose you have no right to complain tons of it was dumped on your lawn?
For me, what the War Spoil system need now is immediate attention and fix, maybe not even deploy anything, just put out a plan or a pool for player to discuss. These action would show that Relic is aware of their responsibility and the problem facing, just in the same way a decent man handing you his insurance card. While random nice free act, such as handing you a candy bar, sure is not bad on its own, it is not the kind of act appropriate for such situation.
Look at half the threads on this forum, or the basic economy systems for any successful free to play game. Personally I just want no duplicates with a progression system linked to rank or something else that can be easily tracked. I would even be ok with bypassing some of the progression (except commanders) by buying xp.
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For example, if I just bumped into your car, according to common logic, the correct thing to do would be get off my car, say sorry to you, give you my insurance information. However, what if instead of taking my social responsibility, I choose to do something quite random but yet still a "free" and nice thing, such as I get off the car and give you a candy bar, then off I go?
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im not sure you understand how this system works...
and look at games like cs:go, they have duplicates and shit drop rates. they also drop crates that you have to pay money to open. cs:go is pretty successful... maybe relic should make you pay money to find out what your drops are.
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im not sure you understand how this system works...
and look at games like cs:go, they have duplicates and shit drop rates. they also drop crates that you have to pay money to open. cs:go is pretty successful... maybe relic should make you pay money to find out what your drops are.
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If you want to look at free to play economies, the most successful, largest player base and money laundering game is still TF2.
Which has duplicates out the ears and down to the pub.
And, oh boy, this is the kicker. You know how much rage the community inexplicably has for getting duplicates rather than 'good things'?
Imagine if you also got crates dropping. Which you had to pay to open... and still had a chance of getting something worthless ;D
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Sounds good. Only pay for cosmetic stuff. All the game changing commanders and bulletins are in the game form the get go
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ARE YOU FOR SERIOUSLY RIGHT NOW?!
You guys kill me with these analogies.
You paid 20$ for 2 factions and 6 commanders. Assuming you never had VCOH2, you even saved money not having to pay for the full game. That's a fair price is it not?
Your analogy makes no sense.
Let me help you.
Let's say you buy your Honda, you pay Honda and agree to their terms.
The Honda is working fine, it drives and you're able to go to work or meet up with friends and all that. Now...you complain because you feel like you should be getting more Gas/mileage even though you're not...you just feel entitled to more.
Honda says "sorry but that's the way it is...that's what you paid for"
You say "yeah but I don't like it this way, it should be more"
You become such a pest that Honda decides to give you 5cents off per gallon just to shut you up.
You complain that it doesn't fix the original mileage issue and that 5cents is worthless and has a psychological impact on your life...
Fek outta here.
Edit: Some grammar...
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There is no need to be emotional, I respect your idea, and I would hope to receive the same treatment.
The main issue you and I do not agree with each other would be whether or not the 6 Rare WFA commanders are included in the price for the expansion. For me I do believe so, as the vCoh2 provided a lot more than 6 commanders on release for each side. I do not think the Honda case you provide would work for this specific case, as I do not recall signing anything regarding the accessibility of the WFA commanders. Correct me if they actually stated that there are only 3 commanders included for each WFA faction for the price.
Again, I accept that your points hold true for the Honda case and if Relic clearly stated that there are only 3 commanders for each WFA faction include when you purchase. If that was the case, I probably would argue their treatment towards loyal fan-base dropped a lot.
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Let's say you buy your Honda, you pay Honda and agree to their terms.
The Honda is working fine, it drives and you're able to go to work or meet up with friends and all that. Now...you complain because you feel like you should be getting more Gas/mileage even though you're not...you just feel entitled to more.
Honda says "sorry but that's the way it is...that's what you paid for"
You say "yeah but I don't like it this way, it should be more"
You become such a pest that Honda decides to give you 5cents off per gallon just to shut you up.
You complain that it doesn't fix the original mileage issue and that 5cents is worthless and has a psychological impact on your life...
Fek outta here.
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Hahaha this is great.
At the same time although I can still play all the old content I can't help feeling a tad alienated by all these weird new systems. It's more like they put a big WAR SPOILS sticker on the side of your car a year after you purchased it. Free stuff! Look, everyone!
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I don't need you to like me, to respect my idea, to respect me or care for what I have to say. Just read it and take from it what you will. I'm not convinced I'll be able to change anyone's mind (from experience, entitled forum goers hardly change)
I did not speak about the 6 rare WFA commanders. I was speaking specifically in regards to the 3 starting OKW and 3 starting US commanders, which gave you the ability to play the game and play it until your hearts content. WHICH IS WHAT YOU PAID FOR...to play the game. No where was it advertised that you would get ANY and ALL commanders let alone "Rare" ones. In a sense, they are all Day 1 free DLC that you have to play for and are considered "Rare" for a reason - they are hard to come by.
You can win or lose just as good/bad with any commander so don't give me that "Some commanders are OP" garbage. Your post smells of entitlement, I'm sorry but I can't help but smell it.
@Brachiaraidos
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+ over 9000 to you guys.
I don't believe in aliens much...but if I did, the COH2 community is a piece of humanity I would be embarrassed to show them.
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CoH2 community in a nutshell.
Commanders only paid for? Complain and say it's pay 2 win.
Unlockable commanders via playing? Complain that there are duplicates and drop rate is too low.
Unlockable commanders via playing + random rotation? Complain and say that this is even worse than just unlockable commanders.
Never happy I unless you get exactly what you want, right? If you want 1000$ and someone on the street donates you 999$ you gonna complain to him that it isn't 1k, rite? D:
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See, I can drive my car without the trunk perfectly fine. I feel in that case you probably would choose not to argue about not having access to the trunk, as maybe in few years you will get it. While I do believe the price I payed include the accesses to the trunk in a timely fashion. We do not agree with each other on this core matter. I appreciate what you said, I do think I am entitled to have access to the 6 rare WFA commander in ways other than worshiping RNG god, so you are correct on that part.
I do not think you should be ashamed to introduce me to any one outside the Coh2 community though, as I do personally think I am a funny smart and reasonable individual just like many others of this community.
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I appreciate what you said, I do think I am entitled to have access to the 6 rare WFA commander in ways other than worshiping RNG god, so you are correct on that part.
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It's literally Relic handing you things you didn't pay for and have no right to own, other than that relic decided to give them to you. You don't get to complain that they're not the things you want. That's not how free works.
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The difference is that your used toilet paper is both useless and unpleasant, and takes up physical space. Also possibly illegal.
Duplicates of anything but bulletins are only the useless part, and a whole lot easier to get rid of if you find the sight displeasing
My point applies to both war spoils and this. Neither of them are anything but ways for relic to give the playerbase free content as a reward for playing the game. That's all it is.
Complaining that your free things dropping from the sky from relic aren't exactly the things you want to have is a shocking level of self entitlement for no reason.
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