But your assumption is wrong and it's kinda hard to hold relic responsible for something you imagined.
Well, sure. Fact proved that my initial assumption was wrong, as obviously Relic prefer some if not most of the community do not have their hands on the WFA commanders until maybe next year. Then I am simply curious about the reason behind this, and the functional purpose of deploying the rotational system. I am not saying I am holding Relic responsible, just saying I do not understand the path they choose to take and I personally am not quite satisfied with the War Spoil system. I also assumed that I have the right to gently post my opinion on the forum and discuss with people who my post might interest. I sure hope this assumption is not wrong. |
That's what I'm saying...Trunk is the vehicle's main storage compartment so you can't create an analogy where the trunk is the RARE commanders.
Having a trunk (commanders, not the rare ones, just the initial 3) as part of your car (Coh2) is an okay analogy...
Imagine a car, with everything you need for it to be a car. Trunk included
That is what the WFA is WITHOUT the "rare" commanders.
You can still play it just like you can drive the car, you can still chose commanders just like you can chose to open your trunk.
You can't say you have no access to your trunk and compare the trunk to the rare commanders because you already have 3 commanders. That's what I mean by having 3 trunks.
At first I just wanted you to stop being entitled...now I just want to teach you how to make analogies so no one has to go through what I did today.
What if for me the default commanders are like glove-boxes, and I feel like Rare Commanders are more capable, thus they are the trunk? I certainly feel like rifle company is way better than default ones, one of which even have recon flight, which is an ability major have. |
So you purchased a game, without understanding what you were actually buying.
That sounds an awful lot to me like NOT Relic's problem.
You paid for 3 commanders from each faction, and potential access to more.
You did NOT pay for 6 from each. You may have naively assumed you did, but I assure you that you did not.
In other news, Thanks for the free shit Relic.
Like I said before, I made the assumption that the price include more than the 3 commander for each faction based on Relic's previous acts. I do think this assumption is reasonable, and not indicating I am less capable than any of you guys who understand exactly what you were buying.
It is your opinion that "You paid for 3 commanders from each faction, and potential access to more.", I have not yet seen Relic confirming that. If indeed this is written some where on the steam store page or agreements we signed in game, I am sincerely sorry. However, if that is not the case, then I would hold on to my opinion the same way you hold on to yours, and maintain my right to state my concerns on forums for people to discuss. You are welcome to join these discussion and show me your point of view, as always. |
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Your analogies make NO SENSE, dude.
You can't just twist analogies to make them work with your opinion...
COH2 WFA come with everything you need to play the game, including the chance to unlock 3 RARE commanders.
Your trunk analogy doesn't work because you're buying a car with no trunk!
That would mean you buying CoH2 with NO commanders.
So in the case of your twisted analogy, you would have 3 trunks already and 3 other RARE trunks that you could possibly find on your way to wherever it is you like to have fun. However, you don't want to use the 3 trunks given to you, you want those three rare ones and you're having trouble finding them.
Your analogies, I can't even...
I do not understand why I am buying a car without a trunk, may be this is due to some language issue. Where I live, trunk is the vehicle's main storage compartment, and most if not all vehicles have it.
Now, I actually like the analogy about Rare trunks you made very well. That is a smart counter, I understand what you are saying.
But still, I would like to tackle the premise you made that "COH2 WFA come with everything you need to play the game". If the 6 Rare commanders are indeed included in the price I paid, I do not see a reason why I am having trouble finding them. If they are not included in the price, I also do not understand why I will most likely not get any of them while someone with better luck would. I understand why Relic want to reward loyal players by their playtime, but why should a RTS game reward good luck is beyond my understanding. Why should I wait weeks, months or years to play the game we both like so much the play style that suits me through the help of suitable commander? |
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accident post when editing, sorry. |
I don't need you to like me, to respect my idea, to respect me or care for what I have to say. Just read it and take from it what you will. I'm not convinced I'll be able to change anyone's mind (from experience, entitled forum goers hardly change)
I did not speak about the 6 rare WFA commanders. I was speaking specifically in regards to the 3 starting OKW and 3 starting US commanders, which gave you the ability to play the game and play it until your hearts content. WHICH IS WHAT YOU PAID FOR...to play the game. No where was it advertised that you would get ANY and ALL commanders let alone "Rare" ones. In a sense, they are all Day 1 free DLC that you have to play for and are considered "Rare" for a reason - they are hard to come by.
You can win or lose just as good/bad with any commander so don't give me that "Some commanders are OP" garbage. Your post smells of entitlement, I'm sorry but I can't help but smell it.
See, I can drive my car without the trunk perfectly fine. I feel in that case you probably would choose not to argue about not having access to the trunk, as maybe in few years you will get it. While I do believe the price I payed include the accesses to the trunk in a timely fashion. We do not agree with each other on this core matter. I appreciate what you said, I do think I am entitled to have access to the 6 rare WFA commander in ways other than worshiping RNG god, so you are correct on that part. I do think we had a good discussion and had the chance to hear a different point of view. Though eventually we reach some core things we do not agree and there is not much we can do about it.
I do not think you should be ashamed to introduce me to any one outside the Coh2 community though, as I do personally think I am a funny smart and reasonable individual just like many others of this community.
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I don't believe in aliens much...but if I did, the COH2 community is a piece of humanity I would be embarrassed to show them.
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 ARE YOU FOR SERIOUSLY RIGHT NOW?!
You guys kill me with these analogies.
You paid 20$ for 2 factions and 6 commanders. Assuming you never had VCOH2, you even saved money not having to pay for the full game. That's a fair price is it not?
Your analogy makes no sense.
Let me help you.
Let's say you buy your Honda, you pay Honda and agree to their terms.
The Honda is working fine, it drives and you're able to go to work or meet up with friends and all that. Now...you complain because you feel like you should be getting more Gas/mileage even though you're not...you just feel entitled to more.
Honda says "sorry but that's the way it is...that's what you paid for"
You say "yeah but I don't like it this way, it should be more"
You become such a pest that Honda decides to give you 5cents off per gallon just to shut you up.
You complain that it doesn't fix the original mileage issue and that 5cents is worthless and has a psychological impact on your life...
Fek outta here.
Edit: Some grammar...
There is no need to be emotional, I respect your idea, and I would hope to receive the same treatment.
The main issue you and I do not agree with each other would be whether or not the 6 Rare WFA commanders are included in the price for the expansion. For me I do believe so, as the vCoh2 provided a lot more than 6 commanders on release for each side. I do not think the Honda case you provide would work for this specific case, as I do not recall signing anything regarding the accessibility of the WFA commanders. Correct me if they actually stated that there are only 3 commanders included for each WFA faction for the price. Now let us assume the Rare commanders are a part of the price, just for discussion, I payed my fair price for the expansion, but with the new system after 200 hours of play time I still do not have access to any of the rare commander, how do you think I should feel? In your Honda case it would be like I bought the car, and they told me one day they would give the key to open the trunk, which I believe is included in the price I pay for the car, but after 200days, I still do not have the key to my trunk. I feel like in this case I am entitled to let them know my concerns.
Again, I accept that your points hold true for the Honda case and if Relic clearly stated that there are only 3 commanders for each WFA faction include when you purchase. If that was the case, I probably would argue their treatment towards loyal fan-base dropped a lot. |
Just because a thing is free and unwanted does not change the fact it's absolutely free, cost you nothing, is a thing you would not have otherwise had, and have no right to complain about having.
It's literally Relic handing you things you didn't pay for and have no right to own, other than that relic decided to give them to you. You don't get to complain that they're not the things you want. That's not how free works.
I understand your point, I honestly do. But I believe what those of us who are upset about this feature is not against this feature, but against the fact that Relic seems to choose this system as the saving grace for War Spoil. I do not think it is the correct thing to do.
For example, if I just bumped into your car, according to common logic, the correct thing to do would be get off my car, say sorry to you, give you my insurance information. However, what if instead of taking my social responsibility, I choose to do something quite random but yet still a "free" and nice thing, such as I get off the car and give you a candy bar, then off I go?
For me, what the War Spoil system need now is immediate attention and fix, maybe not even deploy anything, just put out a plan or a pool for player to discuss. These action would show that Relic is aware of their responsibility and the problem facing, just in the same way a decent man handing you his insurance card. While random nice free act, such as handing you a candy bar, sure is not bad on its own, it is not the kind of act appropriate for such situation. |
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Just as we speak, the system is deployed. Everyone now have access to Mechanized Assault (OST) and Counter Attack Tactic (Soviet) for 1 week (168 hours). For those of you who think they are going to just put WFA commanders on the rotate list, don't you feel a kiss on the cheek? |
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