Relic trying to save War Spoil with Free Commander Rotation

Jump back to quoted post15 Jul 2014, 21:11 PMSir Buttsmith

While I do believe the price I payed include the accesses to the trunk in a timely fashion. We do not agree with each other on this core matter. I appreciate what you said, I do think I am entitled to have access to the 6 rare WFA commander in ways other than worshiping RNG god, so you are correct on that part.

Jump back to quoted post15 Jul 2014, 21:31 PMvan Voort

No, but we do get to complain when we are expected to think this is the most awesome thing ever


If you come to my house and crap on my carpet I am not going to think "Awesome, Free Manure"

Jump back to quoted post15 Jul 2014, 21:23 PMQuicksandGM

Your analogies make NO SENSE, dude.
You can't just twist analogies to make them work with your opinion...
COH2 WFA come with everything you need to play the game, including the chance to unlock 3 RARE commanders.

Your trunk analogy doesn't work because you're buying a car with no trunk!
That would mean you buying CoH2 with NO commanders.

So in the case of your twisted analogy, you would have 3 trunks already and 3 other RARE trunks that you could possibly find on your way to wherever it is you like to have fun. However, you don't want to use the 3 trunks given to you, you want those three rare ones and you're having trouble finding them.

Your analogies, I can't even...

Jump back to quoted post15 Jul 2014, 21:44 PMWehrwolf

The only bad thing about this release was the warspoils system, I'd say that means relic did a pretty chuffing awesome job.

Jump back to quoted post15 Jul 2014, 21:38 PM5trategos

Again with the misleading shit analogies. Obviously, it would imply effort on your part to clean up while unwanted drops don't negatively impact you, at all.

Jump back to quoted post15 Jul 2014, 21:37 PMmaskedmonkey2

So you purchased a game, without understanding what you were actually buying.

That sounds an awful lot to me like NOT Relic's problem.

You paid for 3 commanders from each faction, and potential access to more.

You did NOT pay for 6 from each. You may have naively assumed you did, but I assure you that you did not.

In other news, Thanks for the free shit Relic.

Jump back to quoted post15 Jul 2014, 21:50 PMvan Voort

They do, because they are a reminder that I have no control over what I get.

Jump back to quoted post15 Jul 2014, 21:50 PMvan Voort

The current system is, to avoid the scatalogical, a lot like:

You can be paid 1,000 for 40 hours work

You can be paid 25 an hour and earm based on how much you work

Or

You can be given 1,200 in lottery tickets

Jump back to quoted post15 Jul 2014, 21:41 PMSir Buttsmith

I do not understand why I am buying a car without a trunk, may be this is due to some language issue. Where I live, trunk is the vehicle's main storage compartment, and most if not all vehicles have it.

Now, I actually like the analogy about Rare trunks you made very well. That is a smart counter, I understand what you are saying.

But still, I would like to tackle the premise you made that "COH2 WFA come with everything you need to play the game". If the 6 Rare commanders are indeed included in the price I paid, I do not see a reason why I am having trouble finding them. If they are not included in the price, I also do not understand why I will most likely not get any of them while someone with better luck would. I understand why Relic want to reward loyal players by their playtime, but why should a RTS game reward good luck is beyond my understanding. Why should I wait weeks, months or years to play the game we both like so much the play style that suits me through the help of suitable commander?

Jump back to quoted post15 Jul 2014, 22:13 PMQuicksandGM

That's what I'm saying...Trunk is the vehicle's main storage compartment so you can't create an analogy where the trunk is the RARE commanders.
Having a trunk (commanders, not the rare ones, just the initial 3) as part of your car (Coh2) is an okay analogy...

Imagine a car, with everything you need for it to be a car. Trunk included
That is what the WFA is WITHOUT the "rare" commanders.
You can still play it just like you can drive the car, you can still chose commanders just like you can chose to open your trunk.

You can't say you have no access to your trunk and compare the trunk to the rare commanders because you already have 3 commanders. That's what I mean by having 3 trunks.

At first I just wanted you to stop being entitled...now I just want to teach you how to make analogies so no one has to go through what I did today.

Jump back to quoted post15 Jul 2014, 21:54 PMSir Buttsmith

Like I said before, I made the assumption that the price include more than the 3 commander for each faction based on Relic's previous acts. I do think this assumption is reasonable, and not indicating I am less capable than any of you guys who understand exactly what you were buying.

Jump back to quoted post15 Jul 2014, 22:23 PMSir Buttsmith

What if for me the default commanders are like glove-boxes, and I feel like Rare Commanders are more capable, thus they are the trunk? I certainly feel like rifle company is way better than default ones, one of which even have recon flight, which is an ability major have.

Jump back to quoted post15 Jul 2014, 22:26 PM5trategos

But your assumption is wrong and it's kinda hard to hold relic responsible for something you imagined.

Jump back to quoted post15 Jul 2014, 22:44 PMbraciszek

There is a chance for you to NEVER get something that is "available" to everyone.

That should not be possible. That is preventing someone from getting a War Spoil that was promised to be obtainable. Now, other systems have trading which means it IS possible to obtain something you'll never earn. But we have nothing of the sort.

In short, it is the worst idea in the world to half-release a luck-based drop system.

Also, bulletins and faceplates are worth nothing. The thing with TF2 is that you can craft crappy items into metals that are universally worth something. That is why i fear for a trading system. No one wants a lot of the spoils, at least you wont get anything that you might not already have in return.