Double T-34/85s or IS-2?
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16 Jun 2014, 22:43 PM
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Choose one and why
16 Jun 2014, 22:48 PM
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Double T-34/85's because you can pincer-attack enemy armour and get rear hits.
If IS-2 gets a health buff and it's old main gun back (with buffed MG but nerfed AOE), then we'll talk!
If IS-2 gets a health buff and it's old main gun back (with buffed MG but nerfed AOE), then we'll talk!
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16 Jun 2014, 22:49 PM
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16 Jun 2014, 22:53 PM
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t-34/85 obviously..not even a serious poll.
Twin t-34s can kill every german tank in the game....is-2 can't..they are also faster and can self repair.The effect of 2 t-34s on infantry is equal or better than 1 is-2.t-34/85s also far less vulnerable to both tiger and elfant..the 2 german lategame tank than is-2 which will lose to both against elfant due to speed and tiger due to ROF.
T-34/85 can swarm tiger and with mark target dispatch it...and can use its speed to flank elefants well too.
That leaves panther which is rarely used.This is one area is-2 shines..but because panther is seldom used it doesn't count for much.
The other german tank is pz 4...both kill it equally easy.But against is-2 pz 4 has speed to run away..against t-34/85 it can't and will be hunted down.
On top it comes with a doctrine that has self repair and mark target..some of the most useful armor abilities in the game.
Finally its 9 cp to 11cp.
11CP usually means u have to build a building to get there..9 cp u can scrape to.
Obvious choice - double t-34/85
Twin t-34s can kill every german tank in the game....is-2 can't..they are also faster and can self repair.The effect of 2 t-34s on infantry is equal or better than 1 is-2.t-34/85s also far less vulnerable to both tiger and elfant..the 2 german lategame tank than is-2 which will lose to both against elfant due to speed and tiger due to ROF.
T-34/85 can swarm tiger and with mark target dispatch it...and can use its speed to flank elefants well too.
That leaves panther which is rarely used.This is one area is-2 shines..but because panther is seldom used it doesn't count for much.
The other german tank is pz 4...both kill it equally easy.But against is-2 pz 4 has speed to run away..against t-34/85 it can't and will be hunted down.
On top it comes with a doctrine that has self repair and mark target..some of the most useful armor abilities in the game.
Finally its 9 cp to 11cp.
11CP usually means u have to build a building to get there..9 cp u can scrape to.
Obvious choice - double t-34/85
16 Jun 2014, 23:04 PM
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^Maybe he is using the OTHER commander which has radio intercept and both tanks.
T34-85s. They arrive faster, you can spread them out, it can chase infantry and with micro it can take out heavier tanks which the IS2 will have difficulty on.
If you are a more defensive player you would prefer an IS2. Do some peek a boo and try to wipe some squads. IS2 is far more reliable on taking out Paks on less shots if ground fire on the center of it.
T34-85s. They arrive faster, you can spread them out, it can chase infantry and with micro it can take out heavier tanks which the IS2 will have difficulty on.
If you are a more defensive player you would prefer an IS2. Do some peek a boo and try to wipe some squads. IS2 is far more reliable on taking out Paks on less shots if ground fire on the center of it.
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16 Jun 2014, 23:11 PM
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with the tiger being so common this patch is2 isn't worth it i feel. it feels weak this patch tbh though its still got good good anti inf which is still useful and its better than the t34/85 anti infantry.
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16 Jun 2014, 23:15 PM
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I love how people forget that the T34/85 lives in three doctrines.
Yes All T34/85s come with Mark Vehicle and Self Repair...oh...wait...they dont
@OP
Because I dont like using a nerfed Tiger.
Yes All T34/85s come with Mark Vehicle and Self Repair...oh...wait...they dont
@OP
Because I dont like using a nerfed Tiger.
The PTRS's are fine as they are. Whenever i'm up against Guard Infantry, I always have to be careful with my vehicles or the Guards will completely destroy them. Good range, good damage and fairly cheap; if anything, the PTRS should nerfed since it's ridiculously good for the price. Even in the hands of Conscripts, the PTRS's are extremely potent.
16 Jun 2014, 23:28 PM
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I'm ok with tiger AI nerf..but if tiger gets worse than it is in AT deptmt then its hopeless.Its already nothing worldbeating in AT dept..good but not remotely OP in tank killing.Especially vulnerable to mediums.
Agreed. AT is fine on the Tiger. AI is batshit crazy especially for an Ost tank. But TBH I dont really care that it kills scripts and such its how good it is at hard countering multiple Zis.
The PTRS's are fine as they are. Whenever i'm up against Guard Infantry, I always have to be careful with my vehicles or the Guards will completely destroy them. Good range, good damage and fairly cheap; if anything, the PTRS should nerfed since it's ridiculously good for the price. Even in the hands of Conscripts, the PTRS's are extremely potent.
17 Jun 2014, 00:38 AM
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17 Jun 2014, 02:06 AM
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please dont' break NDA bad things may happen to you. but tbh i not even sure if it was but im pretty sure so invis. 
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17 Jun 2014, 04:09 AM
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Answer:
It depends.
It depends.
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17 Jun 2014, 04:10 AM
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Double T34s If with mark vehicle
Without Mark vehicle id rather have IS2 and then cal the t34s in later,if we're talking armored assault.
Without Mark vehicle id rather have IS2 and then cal the t34s in later,if we're talking armored assault.
17 Jun 2014, 04:44 AM
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without a doubt t34/85. since armour dont do much against the plethora of high pen guns that german AT has. 800x2 hp is better than a 960hp.
not to mention more dps from twice the guns and t34/85 has decent AI too.
not to mention more dps from twice the guns and t34/85 has decent AI too.
17 Jun 2014, 06:23 AM
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T34/85 for sure. Because it comes earlier and can start killing infantry in mid game.
I think all the heavy tanks should be shaped/balanced as IS-2. Heavy to receive some damage, stronger than any other tier tank but not that strong to wipe enemy infantry or tanks.
I would balance Tiger/ISU-152 and Elephant like that tank.
I think all the heavy tanks should be shaped/balanced as IS-2. Heavy to receive some damage, stronger than any other tier tank but not that strong to wipe enemy infantry or tanks.
I would balance Tiger/ISU-152 and Elephant like that tank.
17 Jun 2014, 06:55 AM
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I go for the IS-2 tbh, one mistake and its too easy for a T-34-85 to be destroyed, meaning you've lost half your investment and rendering the other T-34-85 pretty useless. Meanwhile an IS can be taken down to half health and then can be put back and repaired...
17 Jun 2014, 17:31 PM
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NDA gods will devour you whole
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The PTRS's are fine as they are. Whenever i'm up against Guard Infantry, I always have to be careful with my vehicles or the Guards will completely destroy them. Good range, good damage and fairly cheap; if anything, the PTRS should nerfed since it's ridiculously good for the price. Even in the hands of Conscripts, the PTRS's are extremely potent.
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