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10 Jun 2014, 19:55 PM
#681
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^^^

I think that puppchen is going to be pretty important. I'm guessing that its performance and cost will be lower than both Zis and Pak. Cost is probably going to be in the range of HMG/mortar but more than the 45mm AT gun (200 MP)

Its penetration is going to be around that of the panzershreck, and its range/accuracy is going to be better.

Around 3? by the time T-34s/Sherman 75s start spamming will probably be what the OKW will be needing.


Panzershreck: 180 max penetration, 120 damage. Range: 35


My guess:

Puppchen: 180 max pen, 120 damage, Range: 50


Sherman apparently has 480 health,with sherman jumbo 640.
10 Jun 2014, 20:01 PM
#682
avatar of Mr. Someguy

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Is that info allowed to be released? :P
10 Jun 2014, 20:04 PM
#683
avatar of austerlitz

Posts: 1705

Is that info allowed to be released? :P


I'm not alpha player...i have no obligation...plus some guy raging about massed hidden puppchens killing all his tanks leaked it on the other forum.
10 Jun 2014, 20:06 PM
#684
avatar of Zupadupadude

Posts: 618



Sherman apparently has 480 health,with sherman jumbo 640.


Um, there is no Sherman Jumbo.
10 Jun 2014, 20:11 PM
#685
avatar of coh2player

Posts: 1571

Awesome... if there is a commander with the jumbo...480 is harsh and low.

I am 100% certain the the devs saw this video. Puppchen has a pretty harsh recoil:


10 Jun 2014, 20:12 PM
#686
avatar of austerlitz

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Um, there is no Sherman Jumbo.


Oh sry,he said the 'best version of sherman' ,i though that meant jumbo.
10 Jun 2014, 20:14 PM
#687
avatar of Zupadupadude

Posts: 618



Oh sry,he said the 'best version of sherman' ,i though that meant jumbo.


The Jumbo isn't the best version of the Sherman. :p
10 Jun 2014, 20:22 PM
#688
avatar of austerlitz

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Another thing he was angry about was how effective stuka is vs rifle blob.Probably kills in a yellow patch like strafe and causes heavy casualities.He said 90% -exaggerating no doubt.

But also said soviets handle OKW easy.
10 Jun 2014, 20:35 PM
#689
avatar of coh2player

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The best version of the Sherman- the Sherman 76mm "Easy Eight".

What makes the Soviets so good against OKW from his opinion?
10 Jun 2014, 20:41 PM
#690
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Another thing he was angry about was how effective stuka is vs rifle blob.Probably kills in a yellow patch like strafe and causes heavy casualities.He said 90% -exaggerating no doubt.

But also said soviets handle OKW easy.


Rifle blob, i saw OKW has no MG or something to fast pin. Oke, the kubelwagen. But that dies pretty fast. So a decent anti blob for OKW is more than welcome.
People that cant micro and just blob should be punished. Good job from Relic!
10 Jun 2014, 20:42 PM
#691
avatar of austerlitz

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The best version of the Sherman- the Sherman 76mm "Easy Eight".

What makes the Soviets so good against OKW from his opinion?


No idea,my guess is OKW needs to keep trucks on forward positions.Between zis with barrage plus anti vehicle ability,maxims ability to walk up and suppress inf and satchels doing huge dmg to trucks..even leaving aside cars ,most probably they get overrun ....trucks don't survive soviet assault.Once trucks are gone economy collapses,gg.My guess purely.
He said okw-usa is more balanced.
10 Jun 2014, 20:51 PM
#692
avatar of Katitof

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No idea,my guess is OKW needs to keep trucks on forward positions.Between zis with barrage plus anti vehicle ability,maxims ability to walk up and suppress inf and satchels doing huge dmg to trucks..even leaving aside cars ,most probably they get overrun ....trucks don't survive soviet assault.Once trucks are gone economy collapses,gg.My guess purely.
He said okw-usa is more balanced.


Too bad you have no slightest idea what are you talking about because you didn't fucking played and still complain.

I know acting like an emotional retard is your thing, but even that should have some limits.
10 Jun 2014, 20:52 PM
#693
avatar of coh2player

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HMGs come with LW and fill out that non doctrinal gap in OKW. From remembering the video, I noticed that kubels do suppress quickly enough but they take huge damage if the enemy fires first:

10 Jun 2014, 20:53 PM
#694
avatar of Mr. Someguy

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jump backJump back to quoted post10 Jun 2014, 20:41 PMStafkeh
People that cant micro and just blob should be punished. Good job from Relic!


Unfortunately blobbing has never really been truly punished in CoH, and in fact, CoH1 had 2 factions that outright rewarded you for blobbing. While I wish there would be received accuracy penalties for blobs, I don't see it happening soon if at all.
10 Jun 2014, 20:54 PM
#695
avatar of austerlitz

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jump backJump back to quoted post10 Jun 2014, 20:51 PMKatitof


Too bad you have no slightest idea what are you talking about because you didn't fucking played and still complain.

I know acting like an emotional retard is your thing, but even that should have some limits.


Read the post,i said its a theory.I'm fully entitled to my opinion.

I know overreacting to each post that deviates from ur views is ur thing,but know ur limits.Ur sarcastic flaming on every post here and there are getting boring.
10 Jun 2014, 20:59 PM
#696
avatar of austerlitz

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HMGs come with LW and fill out that non doctrinal gap in OKW. From remembering the video, I noticed that kubels do suppress quickly enough but they take huge damage if the enemy fires first:



In my view whether luftwaffe doctrine is great or not will depend on -

1)How good fallschirmjaegers are.
2) How useful is mg 34.
3)If that 'flak emplacemnet' means the 88 mm.This is the biggest factor as it would give this a lategame AT option.iF 88 MM cost just mp like pak 43 it would be very popular as OKW have fuel scarcity and camping around truck is ideally suited for an emplacemnt like that..think british 17 pounder.
4)Trenches could be useful in camping around trucks.
5)If valiant assault is more than just move faster.

AIrborne assualt is mediocre ability as it can't be used solo like an off map ability,as that will lead to destruction of the follow up fallschirmjager squad-so it actually doesn't have a offmap ability.
10 Jun 2014, 21:04 PM
#697
avatar of Mr. Someguy

Posts: 4928

jump backJump back to quoted post10 Jun 2014, 20:51 PMKatitof
I know acting like an emotional retard is your thing, but even that should have some limits.


Reminder to be respectful:

10 Jun 2014, 21:10 PM
#698
avatar of Mr. Someguy

Posts: 4928

3)If that 'flak emplacemnet' means the 88 mm.This is the biggest factor as it would give this a lategame AT option.iF 88 MM cost just mp like pak 43 it would be very popular as OKW have fuel scarcity and camping around truck is ideally suited for an emplacemnt like that..think british 17 pounder


Going by the picture, it's a single 2cm Flak 38.

10 Jun 2014, 21:16 PM
#699
avatar of braciszek

Posts: 2053



Going by the picture, it's a single 2cm Flak 38.



Hopefully costing around an mg nest/mg fighting position (actually probably more since im expecting it to hit planes and have full 360 spin).
10 Jun 2014, 21:22 PM
#700
avatar of Kronosaur0s

Posts: 1701

jump backJump back to quoted post10 Jun 2014, 20:51 PMKatitof


Too bad you have no slightest idea what are you talking about because you didn't fucking played and still complain.

I know acting like an emotional retard is your thing, but even that should have some limits.



looool its just a theory, you take things too seriously..what are you? the brother of Sheldon Cooper?
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