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I wonder if PIV / Panther might mirror the KV1 / KV 8 / T34/85 call-in role the soviets have in the current game.
Given the prevalence of these vehicles on the Western Front, it would be a neat way of keeping them in the game without mirroring the Ostheer too closely.
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Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Half of the games would end up with Germans losing because of inferior armor? No thanks. It wasn´t like that.
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Half of the games would end up with Germans losing because of inferior armor? No thanks. It wasn´t like that.
Nach den Kämpfen um Köln wurde der M26 unter den US-Soldaten in kurzer Zeit zur Legende, allerdings wurden auch einige Pershings von deutschen Panzern und Jagdpanzern zerstört. Neben dem zuvor erwähnten Tiger, der im Februar 1945 einen M26 außer Gefecht setzte, gelang es einem Panzerjäger Nashorn der schweren Panzerjäger-Abteilung 93 am 6. März 1945 bei Remagen südlich von Köln in einem Hinterhalt, einen M26 der 3. US-Panzerdivision auf eine Kampfentfernung von etwas über 250 Metern abzuschießen. Ein Pershing fiel einem Königstiger zum Opfer und mit einiger Sicherheit wurde ein weiterer M26, der nachweislich im Raum Iserlohn völlig zerstört wurde (Frontpanzerung glatt durchschlagen und ausgebrannt), aus größerer Entfernung von einem schweren Jagdpanzer Jagdtiger abgeschossen.
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You don´t get the point:
Im not quite sure I understood it right...
177mm frontal armor on Super Pershing is too much but 180mm and 250mm on Tiger II and Jagdtiger is alright?
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You don´t get the point:
- 492 King Tigers
- 6000 Panthers
- 1350 Tigers
- 2 Super Pershing of which one saw combat
- 20 Pershings
Guess which faction should have the characteristic heavy tanks. The point is that >25 vehicles shouldn´t totally form a faction in Coh2. Honestly I already think the Sturmtiger is too much for the game. But for a faction that didn´t rely on heavy tanks (USA) that´s even more ridiculous.
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Pershing not heavy tank? Lol?
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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You don´t get the point:
- 492 King Tigers
- 6000 Panthers
- 1350 Tigers
- 2 Super Pershing of which one saw combat
- 20 Pershings
Guess which faction should have the characteristic heavy tanks. The point is that >25 vehicles shouldn´t totally form a faction in Coh2. Honestly I already think the Sturmtiger is too much for the game. But for a faction that didn´t rely on heavy tanks (USA) that´s even more ridiculous.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Ok but I still don't get why you don't want to see some equal units to Tiger II/Jagdtiger? Why US have to manage with them with units that have only 100mm armor (Jagdtiger 250mm)?
If Germans can have such a beasts why US cannot?
Pershing not heavy tank? Lol?
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Because as others have said, the Americans weren't like the Germans or the Soviets, they didn't rely on tanks and bigger tanks to fight other tanks, they relied on light tanks for scouting, medium tanks for infantry support, and tank destroyers for tank fighting.
Well technically he's not wrong. After WW2 the Pershing was reclassified as a Medium Tank.
As for my assumption (as to not disrespect Von Kluge), the Americans are going to rely on Tank Destroyers. They will function like the current Puma, light and fast, only they'll mount much more powerful weaponry. What they lack in health and armour, they'll make up for in speed and penetration, and possibly damage, like a Half-Track with a 76mm Tank Gun.
And hopefully no M10. People complain about the SU-85 being in CoH2, but at least the SU-85 was still effective at what it did when it was used. The M10 was obsolete by the time we entered the war, the M18 and M36 were the best TD's we had.
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Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Well, if we consider the fact that MG42 WAS left out when PE came in... as well as long barreled P4, as well as PaK AT guns as well as... ect ect.
Thing is, you can't have many similarities and keep the unique feel, so I wouldn't be surprised if OKW suddenly forgot to give MG42s to their infantry or even use P4 and StuGs at all.
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IS-3 fought japs after Berlin was conquered.
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