Honest opinions about Balance - Soviet adv

Jump back to quoted post13 May 2014, 05:52 AM__deleted__

Use your brains. The changes did to infantry units in terms of accuracy, moving accuracy etc diminished big time the cover effect so it's not like they changed ANYTHING ABOUT COVER. This was done because soviets could not brainlessly charge anymore with shocks and whatever whithout regard to cover. It was a good change, game felt verry tactical. The only thing they should have done was fix pioneers and a minor dps nerf to german small arms. They changed other things instead and now we got ourselves back to a similar system to what it was before 25 march. Now it's clearer? Apparently to few liked the tactical system that march patch proposed, and for that reason Relic did in such way that it diminished its effects in such extent that now are barely perceptible.

Jump back to quoted post13 May 2014, 07:49 AMBrick Top

SSHeini, if you believe infantry play is heavily unbalanced now, you are the only fan boy around here. Its closer than ever.


You really need to take a look at all your own posts. All you do is cry for German buffs. If you have any serious concearns, I honestly encourage you to post a replay. Im sure we can help with your infantry /combined arms use.

Jump back to quoted post13 May 2014, 08:28 AM__deleted__

Exagerration won't help so please don't put words in my mouth. I DON'T have concerns about infantry balance.

Jump back to quoted post13 May 2014, 09:24 AMBrick Top

Get a grip of yourself, read your last post, you imply that the game was balanced before the last patch, which it certainly was not.

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Jump back to quoted post12 May 2014, 16:33 PMBurts

Pure nonsense.
Absolute shit.


ISU-152 penetration is 230. Elefants frontal armor IS 400!

That's a 57% to penetrate.

Tigers armor is 300

76% chance to penetrate.

Panthers armor is 270
that's an 85 percent chance to penetrate.

Keep in mind that range is not taken into account.

Elephants gun has 400 penetration. It can reliably penetrate every . single. soviet tank 100% of the time.

The highest soviet tank is the IS-2 with 351 frontal armor.



Also i have 0 clue why SSheini is complaining about cover meaning less.
THere have been ZERO adjustments to cover.


Honestly, i really hope relic knows what they are doing and wont fuck up again having listened to people like SSheini... Who told us that G43 grens lose to ppsh conscripts 100% before the march deployment. Who said that the game needs minor adjustments and even then complained because the soviets had OP things during march deployment and now they are complaining like crazy because they cannot spam grens and actually have to use tactics to win...

Also, FYI conspam is supposed to be feasible. Con spam is one of the ways the soviet faction is supposed to be played. Now obviously LOL SOVIETS OP BECAUSE THEY CAN DO THIS AND GERMANS CANT.
Ever heard of assymetrical faction design?
Relic themselves said that SOVIET TIER UNITS ARE TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE THAN GERMAN ONES BECAUSE GERMANS WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE COUNTER AVAILABLE TO THEM.

Also lol someone thinking stugs were nerfed... Jesus dude.. WTF....

Also is someone complaing that shock troops are too effective?
Let me tell you how to counter shock troops.
You need to buy 2 grenadier squads OR you can get an LMG 42 on your grenadier squad. Unless its a close quarter map, shock troops have no chance.

Panther is only not worth it now due to call ins being too dominant. If anything it got a buff. At long range it nearly beats an IS-2 due to higher penetrationl.


In 1v1 the game is almost balanced. The only issues right now are soviet mines, ISU-152, and ele (in team games)

Jump back to quoted post13 May 2014, 09:25 AMKreatiir

I believe you guys, I really do.
But maybe I meant the relaod time or I dunno, it doesn't take 1 sec to fire off, reload and fire. I don't ask that, because that's way to fast. But it takes too long to fire 2 shots imo.

Jump back to quoted post13 May 2014, 09:35 AMKatitof

Then that is a reload and it is perfectly fine, otherwise there would be absolutely no point for soviet lights to even be in T3 and T4.

Jump back to quoted post13 May 2014, 09:54 AMVetLolcake

Do me a favour and stop posting your pro soviet garbage in my thread.

Post your own thread and do what you want.

You talk crap and are here to offset all reasonable arguments that soviets are now imbalanced.

In short: fuck off.

Jump back to quoted post13 May 2014, 05:52 AM__deleted__

This was done because soviets could not brainlessly charge anymore with shocks and whatever whithout regard to cover. It was a good change, game felt verry tactical.

Jump back to quoted post13 May 2014, 10:01 AMChegwin

Um how can anyone NOT know SSHeini is pure fanboy? I mean his name is "SS" Heini, with a german officer hat in his avatar, what else do you need to know? Same goes for "Death's Head" guy and his SS symbol in avatar.

Get a clue people

Jump back to quoted post13 May 2014, 10:20 AMBrick Top

Wrong. It was not done to pander to 'brainless charging', it was done because balance was very clearly in German favor. It was not a good change, it had the right idea, but was implemented far too strongly.


If you dont think that makes you sound like you thought it was balanced... lol.

Jump back to quoted post13 May 2014, 10:24 AM__deleted__

There are lots of people here with soviets avatars so I don't get your point.
Secondly, they are more to be appreciated than the soviet fanboys with german machines or german doctrines pictures as avatars