Should the T-34/85 be available without a doctrine?

Jump back to quoted post17 Apr 2014, 16:53 PMKronosaur0s

I dont play 1v1, just to make it clear.
Normally when I have the elefant rammed, I try to reverse it to safe spot and repair it ofc, but then, I've lost so much terrain... or the russians make some kind of IL-2 or the Howitzer , or the Kats dont let you repair it.. in other words, if the heavy gets rammed and it penetrates, its USUALLY(not always) gg.

Jump back to quoted post17 Apr 2014, 17:18 PMBurts

T-34/76 and t-34/85 are two diferent tanks.
If you can convert one into another then i also want to be able to convert my tigers into panthers, and my stugs into elephants.

Jump back to quoted post17 Apr 2014, 17:29 PMThe_rEd_bEar

Actually the t34/85 and t34/76 were 2 different tanks the 85 had a larger turret ring to fit the bigger turret.

Jump back to quoted post17 Apr 2014, 17:36 PMThe_rEd_bEar

Back on topic I don't see this happening ever, relic is pretty stubborn on not implementing drastic changed like this. At the very least relic should change the double call-in on the t34/85 to a single call in like on the advance warfare tactics commander and adjust the price accordenly and maybe push it back 1 cp to compensate it to allow the Germans to prepare for a potential t34/85 - su85 combo.

Jump back to quoted post17 Apr 2014, 17:38 PMPuppetmaster

When AW first came out I think it worked really well, single T34 and being able to get T4 / SU-85. They work well together and help a great deal vs Axis armour.

What about it still being part of a commander, but it replaces T-34/76 with a T-34/85 in the T3 building, but adjust costs to compensate?

Jump back to quoted post18 Apr 2014, 07:20 AMBurts

the t-34/85 should of been in T3.
T-34/76 should of been the doctrinal tank.
Either that or t-34/85 should replace the t-34/76 in the T3 building.

I honestly don't understand this game...
44 ostwinds were built, yet they are non doctrinal, a few hundred brummbaars were built.
22000 t-34/85s were built during the war.
Yet they are doctrinal and are available only in 3 doctrines.

1300 tigers were built , yet they are present in nearly 1/2 of all german doctrines.

Jump back to quoted post18 Apr 2014, 06:01 AMMarcoRossolini

Ram needs to go, at the very least so we don't have everyone complaining about their shiny uncounterable elefant being countered...

Jump back to quoted post18 Apr 2014, 07:20 AMBurts

the t-34/85 should of been in T3.
T-34/76 should of been the doctrinal tank.
Either that or t-34/85 should replace the t-34/76 in the T3 building.

I honestly don't understand this game...
44 ostwinds were built, yet they are non doctrinal, a few hundred brummbaars were built.
22000 t-34/85s were built during the war.
Yet they are doctrinal and are available only in 3 doctrines.

1300 tigers were built , yet they are present in nearly 1/2 of all german doctrines.

Jump back to quoted post18 Apr 2014, 10:01 AMKronosaur0s

Because clicking a button and praying to RNG God is a proper counter, ofc.

Jump back to quoted post18 Apr 2014, 10:34 AMy3ivan

(1)
T34/76 was the main battle tank for the red army during late 1943. T34/85 was only given to Guards Elite battalion and later stages of the war it was a standard issue to newly form battalion or replacement battalions.Even till the end of the war, T34/76 was still largely in the red army armor formation.

In parts of historical accuracy, Relic got that one right but for the soviet tank vs german tank ratio, they got it wrong.

(2)
I do agree ostwinds should not be non-doctrinal vehicle. Either replace it with wirbelwind or just give germans to build static 3.7cm flakgun like vCOH.