AAA options that are not T3?
18 Feb 2014, 12:06 PM
#21
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ZSU-37. Machines of this brand mass produced on the Mytishschinsky engineering and Gorky Automobile Plant since 1944. Until the end of World War II was built 70 self-propelled guns. It would be cool if it was added to the game
18 Feb 2014, 12:18 PM
#22
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Not sure if another T3+ two shootable "armor" for soviets would be a good idea.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
18 Feb 2014, 12:22 PM
#23
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I'd rather not the ZSU-37, not only was it produced in limited numbers, but it'd likely spend more time turning to try and face the plane than actually shooting at the plane.
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18 Feb 2014, 12:36 PM
#24
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ZSU-37-Ostwind analogue. Ostwind was also released in limited quantities. but he is in the game.
18 Feb 2014, 12:57 PM
#25
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Again, the directional AA gun is also probably a bad idea for a unit with a slow turning speed vs a "unit" that moves faster than anything else in the game and does not have to abide by terrain restrictions.
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18 Feb 2014, 13:27 PM
#26
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ZSU-37-Ostwind analogue. Ostwind was also released in limited quantities. but he is in the game.
Ostwind have turret.
Absolutely last thing this game needs is a turret less AA, especially for soviets.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
18 Feb 2014, 13:32 PM
#27
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ZSU-37-Ostwind analogue. Ostwind was also released in limited quantities. but he is in the game.
And what? Soviets have a very good Medium tank destroyer, but Ostheer dont. And thats not reeason to put an analogue to the su85 (Not including paper-made stug III)
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18 Feb 2014, 13:43 PM
#28
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And what? Soviets have a very good Medium tank destroyer, but Ostheer dont. And thats not reeason to put an analogue to the su85 (Not including paper-made stug III)
In future we can hope JaghPanter. You dont want new units? More posibitites? Ost wait for urban assault panzergrenadiers (five models, assault rifles, flamenwerfer and satchel charges). They cannot put this unit in game?
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18 Feb 2014, 14:01 PM
#29
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Urban Assault Panzergrenadiers have 2 Flammenwerfers and 3 MP 40's. There are no StG rifles among them as people keep thinking.
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18 Feb 2014, 14:09 PM
#30
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In future we can hope JaghPanter. You dont want new units? More posibitites? Ost wait for urban assault panzergrenadiers (five models, assault rifles, flamenwerfer and satchel charges). They cannot put this unit in game?
I though the JagdPanther was a Schwerer vehicle (heavy) not a medium tank destroyer
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18 Feb 2014, 14:24 PM
#31
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I though the JagdPanther was a Schwerer vehicle (heavy) not a medium tank destroyer
And ZSU-37 is self-propelled anti-aircraft gun.
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18 Feb 2014, 14:30 PM
#32
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Ostwind have turret.
Absolutely last thing this game needs is a turret less AA, especially for soviets.
ZSU-37 have turret and can be doctrinal in future.
In general i prefere stationar AA placement. We dont need new non-doctrinal moving AA.
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18 Feb 2014, 14:53 PM
#33
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And ZSU-37 is self-propelled anti-aircraft gun.
And who asked you that? I was comparing the ZSU-ostwind and the medium tank destroyer-roles to express my opinion that some things must be unique to Soviets (Su85) and some must be unique to germans(Ostwind). I dont think its good idea to create analogues with the same stats...
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18 Feb 2014, 15:02 PM
#34
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And who asked you that? I was comparing the ZSU-ostwind and the medium tank destroyer-roles to express my opinion that some things must be unique to Soviets (Su85) and some must be unique to germans(Ostwind). I dont think its good idea to create analogues with the same stats...
Analogues can be in doctrinal units. If someone Soviet want armored AA, can pick right doctrine.
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18 Feb 2014, 15:42 PM
#35
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Analogues can be in doctrinal units. If someone Soviet want armored AA, can pick right doctrine.
But who would prefer to pick a ZSU AA to a Fearsome IS2 or ISU152?
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18 Feb 2014, 15:51 PM
#36
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But who would prefer to pick a ZSU AA to a Fearsome IS2 or ISU152?
Incoming massive price reduction of air attack. Strafing run for 90 muni. Bombing for 160. You now need some AA defence more, then in past.
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18 Feb 2014, 16:18 PM
#37
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But those planes do only 1 pass, I dont think its worth it.. and you cant destroy de dive-bombing stuka anyways.
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29 Apr 2014, 17:14 PM
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