Aside from MP connection/matchmaking issues... Commanders are the #1 thing relic needs to fix about this game. Relic made a huge mistake when they decided to sell individual commanders as DLC, then they got greedy with it.
Now we have what... 32? 34? commanders between the two factions. That's just ridiculous. There are far too many overlaps, and to make it worse each commander only has 5 abilities and many commanders have atleast 1 useless/over priced ability.
Not only has this reduced the strategic value at the core, it just makes the game confusing. It's so hard, especially when you just picked up the game, to have a good scouting and project if you're going to be up against heavy tanks or strafing runs - or both.
The catch-22 is that Relic made people PAY for this awful horribly designed system. So all the fools that actual bought commanders will be unhappy if relic was to redesign the system.
Mostly just a rant. I have no suggestions for how to fix commanders. Situation is kinda impossible. I did read post about after CP1 each next CP unlock could choose between two options...
Relic NEEDS to fix commanders
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22 Jan 2014, 16:19 PM
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22 Jan 2014, 16:50 PM
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22 Jan 2014, 16:55 PM
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commanders are fine l2p pls
22 Jan 2014, 16:59 PM
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34 commanders each faction??
The only ones I always see are Elite Troops and Soviet Industry...
The only ones I always see are Elite Troops and Soviet Industry...
22 Jan 2014, 17:10 PM
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The catch-22 is that Relic made people PAY for this awful horribly designed system. So all the fools that actual bought commanders will be unhappy if relic was to redesign the system.
Correction-the only ones who are fools are the ones who think commanders will not be balanced AND the ones who think the system will be changed.
22 Jan 2014, 17:24 PM
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When are the new commanders coming out?
I personally don't believe that they will fix it anymore; the ship has sailed. What I need are more AT armor call-in doctrines for my Soviet play. I use the 2 x IS-2 doctrines way too much.
The new 'Overwhelming Armor' doctrine for the Soviets looks handy as it has 'elite T-34/85s' and Reserve T-34s.
The Germans could use a doctrine that buffs infantry (infantry call-ins?) without costing fuel or munitions.
AS in...GOOD, scalable infantry (like an elite version of the grenadier squad with 6 man squads), not niche infantry like Ostruppen or assault grenadiers.
I personally don't believe that they will fix it anymore; the ship has sailed. What I need are more AT armor call-in doctrines for my Soviet play. I use the 2 x IS-2 doctrines way too much.
The new 'Overwhelming Armor' doctrine for the Soviets looks handy as it has 'elite T-34/85s' and Reserve T-34s.
The Germans could use a doctrine that buffs infantry (infantry call-ins?) without costing fuel or munitions.
AS in...GOOD, scalable infantry (like an elite version of the grenadier squad with 6 man squads), not niche infantry like Ostruppen or assault grenadiers.
22 Jan 2014, 17:28 PM
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22 Jan 2014, 18:25 PM
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You mean "learn to pay" right? MVGame
Learn 2 Pay. Haha, that's genuinely very funny.
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I will lock this, though, because we all know that nothing good will come of it. Relic are aware that certain issues need addressing, and there will more than likely be fixes/changes to a few commanders in the next patch.
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adamírcz: Might be onto somethin here, combine side armour existing, maps where flanking is a viable option, and hopefully also heavies actually being less manouverable than mediums (lookin at you coh2), and it might be fun gameplay
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Willy Pete: Shouldn't coh3 heavies actually have insane front armor values? The glory days of 400+ Kt armor wouldn't be as bad when side armor is a thing. Not to say its a good idea lol
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aerafield: But then again, maybe CoH3 superheavies should actually have insane armor values because the whole game is designed for the clumsy & inept anyway ![:snfPeter: :snfPeter:](/images/Smileys/snfpq.png)
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aerafield: It's like you have to coordinate an entire orchestra of abilities and the correct units, meanwhile your opponent just clicks his 1 superheavy tank occasionally...
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aerafield: the giga frontal armor also made these units too oppressive in average or low ELO games
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aerafield: Massive HP pool but reasonable amount of armor is way healthier design
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aerafield: Say what you want, but the titanium frontal armor design of coh2 superheavies was bullshit. Too many bad players not getting punished for their bad micro because penetration RNG carries them
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Willy Pete: Also the attack ground with the pak40 looked perfect, that Pershing should be dead
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Willy Pete: Ahh just saw the other one that died. Some bad rng I think but there was an AT gun at med range for a chunk of that fight
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Willy Pete: Which KT? I saw one got almost deleted but it also showed its side to a hellcat AND the m5. I think the player even admitted he got lucky
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Lady Xenarra: I understand that the devs want to sell the Allied part of the DLC, but the KT got swiss cheesed like a COH2 bunker on treads ![:S :S](/images/Smileys/wacko.gif)
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SupremeStefan: 25$ is actually a ok price for 40 abilites = 8 commanders = 4 battlegroups. But problem is that it comes in bundle
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Willy Pete: Have they shown the actual trees yet for the new commanders? Skimmed through the deep dive today, didnt see em
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