Is the STUG truly useless??
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Does anyone actually have any success using the stug?
What is the cost comparison to the su85 because u sure as hell would love to be able to build one of those bad boys.
It just feels that Soviet has quite a few more early armour opportunities.
Maybe i need to...wait for it....Learn to play
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In 1v1 I mean. In 2v2 and up Stugs are too weak to stand up to the amount of damage on the field.
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They are best in pairs and can hold their own against SU-85s on a cost basis. A pair can also maul KV-1s (while KV-1s maul P4s) This is the key reason I like stugs, as they can destroy SUs and heavy armor better than P4s. However, stugs need infantry support to deal with conscripts w/ at nades and Zis guns.
The ideal place to use a pair of stugs is on the defensive and in an obvious place like where you need to hold such as the middle of the map.
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I hope that make target weakpoint the way it was because it's quite pricey. I still don't understand why they increased its target size back to normal. It didn't take much to kill the stug, even with its smaller size and I didn't notice it that much, but it did help.
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Imo it depends on your strategy. If you can support your StuG it may be worth it. Else... Not so much.
(Also the StuG III E is quite nice when you manage to mass it (>3).
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STUG is better than the P4 in frontal armor and Pen. If i dont go T4 ill go STUG with Pgrens dor AI if its a Guards doctrine.
The StuG has the same frontal armor as the P-4.
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Stug is awsome if used right. An su 85 will beat a stug but not by much. Stug is also a very decent infanty killer and once you get vet on it you get the target weak point which will freeze an enemy tank. The Unit is very good but also hard to manage, you just need to practice using it effectively and once you start getting good at that you will find its actually a very nice unit.
This. If your opponent is just pumping out T34s; a supported Stug will eat them up.
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This. If your opponent is just pumping out T34s; a supported Stug will eat them up.
P4 still does it better . and better yet still the p4 can be used in every single situation. in fact i find it a bit strange people consider the stug to be the tier 3 killer because its actually very vulnerable to fast medium tanks like the t-34.
Right now the stug's only worth is that it can destroy the kv1's but that's about it.
Current meta involves calling in heavy tanks at 9 cp mark. that's around tier 3 and so skip it and go straight for tiger's or the p4 support tank+ elefant
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As a few people have mentioned the Stug is good against T3 units. For example Soviet players will usually get 2 T34's in quick succession so getting a Stug out first supported by a Pak is more than enough to deal with them (as long as you position them correctly).
Once it gets stun shot it becomes excellent - have it hiding in the back and use your other armor pieces to flank and finish off whatever you have stunned. On that note it is also very good against KV-8's and IS2's as the P4's have a hard time reliably penetrating them
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One of the things that's made me use less stugs is because of the target weak point bug(I think it's still there) where it targets the ground instead of the vehicle
AFIAK the bug only concerns the Pak..? Seems to work fine on the Stug for me
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The pak is cheaper, maybe even sturdier and does pretty much the same job.
Yes the Stug a little more mobile and has some AI potential but then again I'd rather save up for a p4.
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when it's mark-targeted, it is destroyed by t34-85's 2shot
it is a ww2's symbolic armoured unit like sherman, Pz4, Tiger, T-34
BUT it's expensive than t34!
(T34 is multi-talented unit but stug is TANK DESTROYER!)
and too easily destroyed by T34-85, Su85 and IS-2, ISU-152
stug's hitpoint is 480 it is too low i think 640 is right
Stug should be more cheaper or need range and hitpoint burf
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The StuG has the same frontal armor as the P-4.
Did not know this. Not sure I'm too happy about it either
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