USF and MP bleed

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2021, 16:21 PMMr Carmine

At least trying to be unbiased must be even harder.

Those 3 "free" squads compensate for not having elite/semi elite inf stock, rocket arty stock or stock heavies tanks or heavies in general?
Or do they compensate for the to high mp bleed for usf?

Jump back to quoted post14 Sep 2021, 10:10 AMullumulu

than show me the non doc elite infantery on ost and sov.
or the stock heavy tank from sov.


USF dont need rocket arty since they have such great abiltys to push away every defense postion without any commander.
even their 6 model pak howitzer outrange everything which isnt called rocket launcher or howitzer.
the get free repair on their verhicles, get the cheapest and earliest reinforce and healing on the field option ...which is even mobile.
they get free smoke on pios and office squads.

what do u want more?? tell us the uniquice abiltys and stuff from ost, which make the different form other faction? i want positive advantages, not that the have only 4 models and have the biggest tech issues from all factions.

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2021, 05:04 AMMr Carmine

You missed semi elite on purpose? Pgrens fit this catagory. Penals are closer to rifles then to pgrens or obers.

I never suggested su have a stock heavy let alone super heavy.

Usf dont need rocket arty despite not going for it in team games its a loss 9 times out of 10? Having no real blob control? They only counter static blobs effectivly. That a problem how? Same with smoke and weak late game?

Unique stuff from ost:
-Most wipe potentail of all factions.
-At gun td wich can stun.
-Every single stock unit being viable in
all game modes.
-stongest at mine.
-no light tank.
-4 model squads.
-doctrinal abilities effecting more then
one unit. Either all inf or all vehicles.
Before you start i am not saying ost op. Its just a incredebly well rounded faction.

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2021, 06:13 AMullumulu

let me guess..you dont understand what a unique faction bonus ist, right?

let me explain:

a unique faction bonus is something like:

5vet lvl on OKW
jump out crews from USF armor
7 models on standrd infantry
howitzer on base
mortar emplacements
OKW setup truck bases
free squads on teching from USF


all this is uniqe.

and no...ost has not the strongest AT mines. ever heard from the mines from the USF light vehicle? no? see. you are uninformed or forgetti.

and no light tank and only 4 model squads is not a unique..its a disatvantage.

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2021, 07:16 AMMMX

ah well... the grass is always greener on the other side. that is, of course, only until you actually make it over there. but then again, how could you possibly know?

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2021, 06:13 AMullumulu

let me guess..you dont understand what a unique faction bonus ist, right?

let me explain:

a unique faction bonus is something like:

5vet lvl on OKW
jump out crews from USF armor
7 models on standrd infantry
howitzer on base
mortar emplacements
OKW setup truck bases
free squads on teching from USF


all this is uniqe.

and no...ost has not the strongest AT mines. ever heard from the mines from the USF light vehicle? no? see. you are uninformed or forgetti.

and no light tank and only 4 model squads is not a unique..its a disatvantage.

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2021, 10:06 AMMr Carmine

Your are contradicting yourself. A faction trait can be positive als well as negative. Saying 4 men and no light tank is not a trait but a weaknes is bs. Its cherrypicking what you are doing.

Ost faction traits are:

liniar tech with possibilitie to skip any tier.

no light tanks.

low hp squads.

A bit stronger the average team weapons for their cost. Esp the mg42

They are the only faction with snaring at gun and td's.

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2021, 06:13 AMullumulu

and no...ost has not the strongest AT mines. ever heard from the mines from the USF light vehicle? no? see. you are uninformed or forgetti.

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2021, 12:13 PMPip

You know that OST has access to the Riegel mine as well, right? That's the strongest AT mine in the game, not the Teller/M6.

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2021, 12:13 PMPip

You know that OST has access to the Riegel mine as well, right? That's the strongest AT mine in the game, not the Teller/M6.

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2021, 05:04 AMMr Carmine

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-At gun td wich can stun.
...

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2021, 13:04 PMVipper

Riegel and M6 are the same.

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2021, 15:03 PMKlement Pikhtura

If the faction is played differently, it is unique enough. I don't see a point in looking for something special in a faction, especially if one guy sets rules on what is considered unique about OST, in a thread about USF Bleed

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2021, 11:34 AMullumulu

it seems you dont understand what a "UNIQUE" is, too.
a unique isnt like you said: a bit stronger average team weapon.or some else bs you wrote.
and:
only faction with snaring at gun...ah well. i thougth the pak43 can do it too. from OKW. but thats seems false i guess.


a unique is something like noother faction can get...even with commanders.

like 5 lvl of vet. or crew jump out from tanks.
do you understand now the concept of a unique?

a unique for ost could be something funny like a controllable plane or a ship or a submarine in coh2. or the ability to fly around with squads.
can you now imagine what a unique is?

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2021, 13:51 PMPip

Wait, the M6 tracks vehicles?

Hm. I'm surprised it isnt used more, then.

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2021, 13:51 PMPip

Wait, the M6 tracks vehicles?

Hm. I'm surprised it isnt used more, then.

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2021, 21:49 PMVipper

It is not used more because, from what is posted in this forum recently, every USF unit is bad.