same point by the time the Germans decided to use the rockets a bridge head was already secured
The same point, tactical use, to destroy the bridge that supplied the Soviet group.
Black Prince Poll
19 Jul 2021, 16:12 PM
#81
Posts: 2184 | Subs: 2
The same point, tactical use, to destroy the bridge that supplied the Soviet group.
19 Jul 2021, 16:14 PM
#82
Posts: 978
Currently a majority seems to be against the BP.
Imo that's a siginificant number considering it is a vote against a late game heavy tank (extra stuff).
Imo that's a siginificant number considering it is a vote against a late game heavy tank (extra stuff).
19 Jul 2021, 16:15 PM
#83
Posts: 760
the Maus and panther 2 were not even out of the development stage, the kugelblitz may or may not have been used, the black prince was actually functional
If the Maus, Panther 2, or Kugelblitz get added I would be just as mad as the Black Prince getting added.
The Sturmtiger, Ostwind, Pershing, and the Comet were all tanks where less than 40 saw service in WW2, all were added to COH at one point. The Black Prince had 6 prototypes and never saw service in WW2 this should not be added to COH.
Also, vehicles like the Sturmtiger shouldn't even be built in huge quantities. It serves a niche specialized role. to compare, the KV2 shares a similar role to the Sturmtiger and only about 200 were made. a very small amount compared to every other soviet tank made.
19 Jul 2021, 16:16 PM
#84
Posts: 760
Currently a majority seems to be against the BP.this site isn’t representative of the whole player base, most people don’t care
Imo that's a siginificant number considering it is a vote against a late game heavy tank (extra stuff).
19 Jul 2021, 16:17 PM
#85
Posts: 518
then stop crying about, of all the things to complain about it’s one unit, you’re acting like the game will be unrecognizable and you won’t be able to tell if it’s ww2 or not. It’s even worse you’re trying to make the game into something it’s not, coh was never about historical accuracy
Ofc it is one unit. Because, as you maybe already forgot, it is the only unit in CoH3 that was never used.
And I am trying to make the game into something it is not? As far as I remember there were no Maus or T 44 tanks in CoH2 ... in fact Germans even had Short barrel Panzer 4 in the singe player mode.
Oh ... and even the Devs. themselfes stated that they care about historical accuracy for CoH3 ... so stop with your "CoH is not about historical accuracy"
Historical accuracy is important to our team and we have been conducting exhaustive research in an effort to stay true to CoH3's setting.
Please continue to provide feedback on this subject and we'll take that all into consideration. Adding sources is a huge plus!
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
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Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.
Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
19 Jul 2021, 16:17 PM
#86
Posts: 179
the Maus and panther 2 were not even out of the development stage, the kugelblitz may or may not have been used, the black prince was actually functional
They all never saw combat, so they should all not be in the game. It's not that hard to understand.
19 Jul 2021, 16:19 PM
#87
Posts: 2184 | Subs: 2
this site isn’t representative of the whole player base, most people don’t care
In fact, no - the tank is extremely unreliable and constantly breaks down, so it is obvious that this tank was abandoned because it exhausted the possibilities of Churchill's design and focused on the promising Centurion.
19 Jul 2021, 16:20 PM
#88
Posts: 978
the Maus and panther 2 were not even out of the development stage, the kugelblitz may or may not have been used, the black prince was actually functional
There was a complete Maus tank... even before the Black Prince. The 2nd Maus wasn't fit with the turret... the first one was.
"In March 1944 the second prototype, the V2, was delivered. It differed in many details from the V1 prototype. In mid-1944, the V2 prototype was fitted with a powerplant and the first produced Maus turret. This turret was fitted with a 128 mm KwK 44 L/55 gun, a coaxial 75 mm KwK 44 L/36.5 gun and a coaxial 7.92 mm MG 34. The V1 prototype was supposed to be fitted with the second produced turret, but this never happened."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_VIII_Maus
So either we delete the BP or fully embrace the bullshit. if we don't care about which units were deployed, there is no reason the Maus shouldn't be ingame.
19 Jul 2021, 16:23 PM
#89
Posts: 760
the same prototype that was basically unusable because of its shit power plant
There was a complete Maus tank... even before the Black Prince. The 2nd Maus wasn't fit with the turret... the first one was.
"In March 1944 the second prototype, the V2, was delivered. It differed in many details from the V1 prototype. In mid-1944, the V2 prototype was fitted with a powerplant and the first produced Maus turret. This turret was fitted with a 128 mm KwK 44 L/55 gun, a coaxial 75 mm KwK 44 L/36.5 gun and a coaxial 7.92 mm MG 34. The V1 prototype was supposed to be fitted with the second produced turret, but this never happened."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_VIII_Maus
19 Jul 2021, 16:25 PM
#90
Posts: 760
we’re talking about the game that had Pershing’s in Normandy and panther rounds bouncing off Sherman’s
Ofc it is one unit. Because, as you maybe already forgot, it is the only unit in CoH3 that was never used.
And I am trying to make the game into something it is not? As far as I remember there were no Maus or T 44 tanks in CoH2 ... in fact Germans even had Short barrel Panzer 4 in the singe player mode.
Oh ... and even the Devs. themselfes stated that they care about historical accuracy for CoH3 ... so stop with your "CoH is not about historical accuracy"
19 Jul 2021, 16:26 PM
#91
Posts: 978
the same prototype that was basically unusable because of its shit power plantUnusable? You mean things that never make it beyond prototype stage because they are... you know... unusable?
So the BP was unusable and you think it belongs into the game.
However if a German unit is unusable it should stay out of the game.
That's some nice double standard.
19 Jul 2021, 16:26 PM
#92
Posts: 760
you just described 60% of German tanks in coh1/2
In fact, no - the tank is extremely unreliable and constantly breaks down, so it is obvious that this tank was abandoned because it exhausted the possibilities of Churchill's design and focused on the promising Centurion.
19 Jul 2021, 16:28 PM
#93
Posts: 179
you just described 60% of German tanks in coh1/2
Most WW2 tanks in general were unreliable or had stupid design choices. like most early T34 variants lacking radios or the Tiger adding 50+ moving parts to save 10 pounds on a 50 ton tank.
19 Jul 2021, 16:29 PM
#94
Posts: 760
Unusable? You mean things that never make it beyond prototype stage because they are... you know... unusable?
So the BP was unusable and you think it belongs into the game.
However if a German unit is unusable it should stay out of the game.
That's some nice double standard.
I’m not using a double standard, if relic decides to add the maus I wouldn’t care
19 Jul 2021, 16:31 PM
#95
Posts: 760
since coh needs to be historically accurate as possible, let’s add it to the game
Most WW2 tanks in general were unreliable or had stupid design choices. like most early T34 variants lacking radios or the Tiger adding 50+ moving parts to save 10 pounds on a 50 ton tank.
19 Jul 2021, 16:34 PM
#96
Posts: 179
since coh needs to be historically accurate as possible, let’s add it to the game
I agree, limiting tank engagements would allow infantry play to be more prevalent, and allow the chance for a Japanese faction to be added as later DLC.
19 Jul 2021, 16:35 PM
#97
Posts: 2184 | Subs: 2
you just described 60% of German tanks in coh1/2
Have you read the article about the Black Prince? It clearly states that it was not even planned to be sent to the war due to the problems of transporting such a heavy tank and the unreliability of the tank. Why was the T-44 not used in the war? It was a new tank that had childhood illnesses that was produced in Kharkov which was only recently liberated and its factory was virtually destroyed. If the T-44 were produced in Chelyabinsk, for example, its reliability would most likely be better, but the rate of production of the T-34-85, which is needed for the front, would suffer. The reliability of the T-44 could be corrected, it did it, he served well in the army, the reliability of the Black Prince could be improved without a chance, this tank used an outdated suspension that was already extremely overtightened. And the most logical thing that you can do with him is to quit and focus on the promising Centurion.
19 Jul 2021, 16:39 PM
#98
Posts: 760
Have you read the article about the Black Prince? It clearly states that it was not even planned to be sent to the war due to the problems of transporting such a heavy tank and the unreliability of the tank. Why was the T-44 not used in the war? It was a new tank that had childhood illnesses that was produced in Kharkov which was only recently liberated and its factory was virtually destroyed. If the T-44 were produced in Chelyabinsk, for example, its reliability would most likely be better, but the rate of production of the T-34-85, which is needed for the front, would suffer. The reliability of the T-44 could be corrected, it did it, he served well in the army, the reliability of the Black Prince could be improved without a chance, this tank used an outdated suspension that was already extremely overtightened. And the most logical thing that you can do with him is to quit and focus on the promising Centurion.
I don’t care about the technical aspects of units, it still fits the time period so it doesn’t really matter to me, relic can add the panther 2 and is3 for all I care. You’re acting like t64s are being added to the game
19 Jul 2021, 16:41 PM
#99
Posts: 1594
v1s were not used in a tactical capacity, infrared assault rifles weren’t used, and don’t get me started on units like the strum tiger.
V1s were used to attack ground targets. They're missiles. The Germans used them to attack Antwerp directly in the later stages of the war. I'm not sure how you're defining "Tactical capacity" precisely, and why you think that's somehow the same as something not actually being used in /any/ capacity.
Yes, they did use Infrared sights. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zielger%C3%A4t_1229
The Sturmtiger was indeed used in combat. Please, do "get started", because I'm not sure if you've actually got any real argument there.
You’re fighting a losing argument
Please stop projecting.
I don’t care about the technical aspects of units, it still fits the time period so it doesn’t really matter to me, relic can add the panther 2 and is3 for all I care. You’re acting like t64s are being added to the game
It wasn't used during the time period in question. Ergo: It does not fit the time period. Your "argument" would also allow for the addition of the Centurion, which is similarly not a period-appropriate vehicle.
19 Jul 2021, 16:42 PM
#100
Posts: 2184 | Subs: 2
I don’t care about the technical aspects of units, it still fits the time period so it doesn’t really matter to me, relic can add the panther 2 and is3 for all I care. You’re acting like t64s are being added to the game
in fact, the addition of the Black Prince is tantamount to the addition of the T-64. Because these are two tanks not participating in the Second World War. Once again, taking a certain time period, you take its limitations. There are no Black Princes in WWII, In Operation Unthinkable? Yes, he might be there.
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