why was maxim nerfed recent patches?

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2021, 20:38 PMMarkedRaptor

I think that's just the breaks of having 6 men MG squad that can reinforce via merge. I think all MG's should be strong but it has to pay for the advantages it is given.

I kind of like the idea of the DHSKA being a 4 man squad with great suppression vs the Maxims "just throw bodies at it" so both play styles have an MG they'd want.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2021, 22:08 PMMr. Someguy

Crew sizes are an inherent advantage of the Soviet faction. You've probably noticed you get 6 man crews if you recrew another faction's weapon. If you're willing to put in the manpower you could even gain 6-man Shock Troop MG 42's that can watch their own asses.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2021, 22:24 PMPip

Correct, and they're rather too strong. Though you pay an extra premium on population on captured crew weapons, and you can't /build/ the MG42, you have to capture them.

I do think that these weapons shouldn't be balanced around their crew sizes though, if it's a factional trait. Soviet crew weapons should have the same crew size as other factions, or the number of crewmen should be tied to the weapon, not the faction crewing it. Either of these options would leave room for the Maxim to be buffed, and reduce the problems that soviet crews cause.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2021, 23:34 PMMr. Someguy

I would have to disagree, we should avoid continuing to strip factions of their uniqueness in the name of "standardization", not to mention this would constitute a faction-wide nerf to every Soviet crew weapon which is simply not necessary.

Additionally, Ostheer and OKW have good DPS options for dealing with Soviet weapon crews, LMG Grenadiers can pick off models from further away and Sturmpioneers or Panzergrenadiers can shred them with a flank. Before anyone mentions the Western allies, USF and UKF have powerful mainline infantry to back up their crew weapons.

Jump back to quoted post20 Apr 2021, 03:01 AMChukiki

had to mute Rapter.

@everyone else, Maxim needs more surpression and faster set up time otherwise its just inferior to the axis mg for same MP cost

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2021, 23:34 PMMr. Someguy

I would have to disagree, we should avoid continuing to strip factions of their uniqueness in the name of "standardization", not to mention this would constitute a faction-wide nerf to every Soviet crew weapon which is simply not necessary.

Additionally, Ostheer and OKW have good DPS options for dealing with Soviet weapon crews, LMG Grenadiers can pick off models from further away and Sturmpioneers or Panzergrenadiers can shred them with a flank. Before anyone mentions the Western allies, USF and UKF have powerful mainline infantry to back up their crew weapons.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2021, 22:24 PMPip

Correct, and they're rather too strong. Though you pay an extra premium on population on captured crew weapons, and you can't /build/ the MG42, you have to capture them.

I do think that these weapons shouldn't be balanced around their crew sizes though, if it's a factional trait. Soviet crew weapons should have the same crew size as other factions, or the number of crewmen should be tied to the weapon, not the faction crewing it. Either of these options would leave room for the Maxim to be buffed, and reduce the problems that soviet crews cause.

Jump back to quoted post21 Apr 2021, 15:40 PMBlebfeesh

It has literally been progressively buffed in almost every recent major patch. It has comically high group suppression to the point that 2 squads on opposite sides of its arc can be suppressed when you focus on one for long enough, and the sustained fire ability compensates for the lackluster vet 0 capabilities, and turns it into an absolute beast when the maxim gains veterancy. Its on you for not fully utilizing its strengths, and accounting for its weaknesses. If you want to look at a machine gun thats kinda sad rn, look at the 50 cal, which has the same deathloop problems, but with a smaller squad. Otherwise, all machine guns are in a pretty good spot when accounting for the various strengths and weaknesses the various factions have.

Jump back to quoted post21 Apr 2021, 20:51 PMChukiki

didnt understand a word, also muted