Commander Update Beta 2021 - OKW Feedback

Jump back to quoted post4 Apr 2021, 00:50 AMOrangePest

Fuissilers will never replace volks.

Why?

Sandbags.

Jump back to quoted post3 Apr 2021, 09:32 AMKasarov

You know, a while back people were trying to fit an Ostwind into Luftwaffe, but they couldn't decide if they liked the Flak emplacement more or the Ostwind more. I just had an idea to keep both:

Replace Valiant Assault with Ostwind and add combat bonuses to Airborne Assault, adjusting as necessary to mitigate the loss of Valiant Assault.

I gave no consideration towards balancing, but I think this brain fart idea might still be worth considering just because Ostwind really just thematically belongs in Luftwaffe.

Jump back to quoted post3 Apr 2021, 09:32 AMKasarov

You know, a while back people were trying to fit an Ostwind into Luftwaffe, but they couldn't decide if they liked the Flak emplacement more or the Ostwind more. I just had an idea to keep both:

Replace Valiant Assault with Ostwind and add combat bonuses to Airborne Assault, adjusting as necessary to mitigate the loss of Valiant Assault.

I gave no consideration towards balancing, but I think this brain fart idea might still be worth considering just because Ostwind really just thematically belongs in Luftwaffe.

Jump back to quoted post4 Apr 2021, 01:23 AMNorthWeapon

Current patch I make 1 volks for sandbags and the rest Fussies.

Next patch Volks will be relegated to sandbagger

Jump back to quoted post4 Apr 2021, 00:19 AMNorthWeapon

I think perhaps the worst change in the entire changelog, is making Panzer Fusiliers completely replace Volks.

Give players choice. Make the units serve different roles. Remove the Fussilier as a core combatant and make it into a specialized elite unit. I think remove STGs from Volksgrenadiers and give them G43s. Then give Fussies STGs and make them the elite close ranged units for OKW. Literally I think this is the best way to remove overlapping from these units.

I think someone can have a better idea but this comes to mind:

Remove STGs from Volks give them G43s and give 6 Sturmpio variant STGs to Fussiliers. Now you have a truly unique terminator unit. They won't replace Sturmpios because Sturmpios have repairs.

Or here is another idea. Make Panzerfusiliers a dedicated Panzer support or mechanized unit that is a dedicated AT double shrek unit.

Something needs to differentiate them. And I think removing G43 from Fussies and either going the AT or STG track is better. Or make them like Panzer Elite, they always come in a halftrack.

Jump back to quoted post4 Apr 2021, 02:53 AMKT610

I think Panzerfusililers should lose the g43s and 6th model upgrade, and get a LMG42. OKW already has good close to mid range infantry, but it lacks long range infantry firepower until they get obers.

Jump back to quoted post5 Apr 2021, 14:05 PMZeroZeroNi

Nope, not having 5 man lmg grens.

Jump back to quoted post5 Apr 2021, 17:21 PMKT610

then just make them a 4 model squad and give gren kar98ks, that way OKW players have a choice to go with Volks a more durable 5 model mid to close range squad that can build sandbags or go with Pfus a more fragile 4 model long range squad that can get access to LMG42 or Panzerschrecks

Jump back to quoted post5 Apr 2021, 14:04 PMZeroZeroNi

but G43's are better than stg's

Jump back to quoted post5 Apr 2021, 17:32 PMNorthWeapon

The point isn't better or worse. The point is having a distinct role

Jump back to quoted post5 Apr 2021, 17:26 PMKatitof

OKW does have long range 4 man squad already.... 2 in fact.

Jump back to quoted post5 Apr 2021, 17:52 PMKT610

OKW also has 4 close to mid range squads (Strums, Volks, Pfus, and Fallschirmjägers) but what OKW does lack a mainline long range combat infantry