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https://community.companyofheroes.com/discussion/241846/soviet-tactics#latest
And a guide to Soviet Commander abilities:
https://community.companyofheroes.com/discussion/247030/soviet-commander-abilities#latest
Soviet Commander Revamp 2021
12 Mar 2021, 17:18 PM
#1
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12 Mar 2021, 17:20 PM
#2
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Anyone who wish can help by provide additional info, correction or omissions.
12 Mar 2021, 17:39 PM
#3
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The biggest commander that needs to be put in order is obviously the Guards Airborne Forces. Here you need real airborne skin, parachuting animation. And I am sure that Relic can easily select several people for this, it is definitely easier to do than x64 and from the fact that a few people will fix the mess of the Relic of the game, Relic will not go bankrupt. Otherwise, just remove to hell with this mockery of the Airborne Forces. Just make a commander with Shock Troops and T-34-85 and everyone will be happy.
12 Mar 2021, 22:32 PM
#4
Posts: 956
Buffs
Partysans - SMG ones just need somethin to be overall better and both versions should have lower reinforcement costs and upkeep
Airborne guards should have something that makes them worth it over normal guards
Nerfs
AT OPwatch - same as skillplanes across the board, a 10 to 20 sec delay before it starts acquiring targets
Maybe light KV1 cost increase
Partysans - SMG ones just need somethin to be overall better and both versions should have lower reinforcement costs and upkeep
Airborne guards should have something that makes them worth it over normal guards
Nerfs
AT OPwatch - same as skillplanes across the board, a 10 to 20 sec delay before it starts acquiring targets
Maybe light KV1 cost increase
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12 Mar 2021, 22:56 PM
#5
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Partisans could do with being made more like stormtroopers.
Buff them a little, raise the price and give them a PPSH upgrade and Schreck upgrade.
This frees up a slot to add something substantial for late game. Maybe something thematic like a captured German tank. Unlikely though.
Tank Hunter Tactics
Put the PMD-6M mines into a bundle with Tank traps
Replace the ML-20 with the B-4
Soviet Industry
Bundle together Crew Repairs and Repair Station (hell maybe throw in conscript repair too, might be unbalanced). Put PPSH or SVT upgrade in the free slot to represent the arms industry
Replace rapid conscription in Conscript Support tactics with the Commissar cause this ability sucks unless reworked
Buff them a little, raise the price and give them a PPSH upgrade and Schreck upgrade.
This frees up a slot to add something substantial for late game. Maybe something thematic like a captured German tank. Unlikely though.
Tank Hunter Tactics
Put the PMD-6M mines into a bundle with Tank traps
Replace the ML-20 with the B-4
Soviet Industry
Bundle together Crew Repairs and Repair Station (hell maybe throw in conscript repair too, might be unbalanced). Put PPSH or SVT upgrade in the free slot to represent the arms industry
Replace rapid conscription in Conscript Support tactics with the Commissar cause this ability sucks unless reworked
12 Mar 2021, 23:09 PM
#6
Posts: 4928
The Guards Airborne need to be more like Paratroopers, give them higher damage resistance and make their PPSh considerably stronger, but with a munitions cost.
Similarly, Assault Guards could use a target size reduction, they're actually the easiest to Guard's Squad to hit since they have full target size.
In order to better balance the power of the SVT Crate Drop, since the PPSh are not very strong on Penals when they arrive, I was thinking reduce SVT from 4 to 3, reduce cost accordingly, and have it 1CP earlier. That would help alleviate the apparent OP-ness on Conscripts (which i disagree is an issue, though it is a decent upgrade), but make it more appealing for Penals or Combat Engineers (who can use it with a flamethrower). With this, revert the nerf to Conscripts last patch.
Similarly, Assault Guards could use a target size reduction, they're actually the easiest to Guard's Squad to hit since they have full target size.
In order to better balance the power of the SVT Crate Drop, since the PPSh are not very strong on Penals when they arrive, I was thinking reduce SVT from 4 to 3, reduce cost accordingly, and have it 1CP earlier. That would help alleviate the apparent OP-ness on Conscripts (which i disagree is an issue, though it is a decent upgrade), but make it more appealing for Penals or Combat Engineers (who can use it with a flamethrower). With this, revert the nerf to Conscripts last patch.
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13 Mar 2021, 04:45 AM
#7
Posts: 1563
What about buffing partisan's to same lavel as wehr stormtroopers??????
13 Mar 2021, 08:09 AM
#8
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PPSH buffs. Make the upgrade more like the OKW MP40 one or the UKF Assault Sections?
13 Mar 2021, 08:49 AM
#9
Posts: 563
Buffing partisans to be like storms isnt imo best solution. Just reinforcement dirt cheap and give additional model with vet so they wouldnt be redundant after first fight.
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13 Mar 2021, 12:00 PM
#10
Posts: 732
Just some ability
Cons assault package--replace default 7men upgrade be default weapon upgrade，ability change to allow Consript upgrade singe DP and Penal allow upgrade 2x DP
Conscript Repair Kit---allow Penal repair too，reduce to 2cp，maybe bundle with Advanced Foritfications（Defend commander）
M5 Halftrack Assault Group---after 3cp and have T3，allow build Assault Guard in HQ，maybe Assault Guards can replace some commander shock trooper
Rapid Conscription---some rework，same wish for OST relief infantry
120mm motar---need more love plz
B4 howitzer--replace some commander ML20 plz
Cons assault package--replace default 7men upgrade be default weapon upgrade，ability change to allow Consript upgrade singe DP and Penal allow upgrade 2x DP
Conscript Repair Kit---allow Penal repair too，reduce to 2cp，maybe bundle with Advanced Foritfications（Defend commander）
M5 Halftrack Assault Group---after 3cp and have T3，allow build Assault Guard in HQ，maybe Assault Guards can replace some commander shock trooper
Rapid Conscription---some rework，same wish for OST relief infantry
120mm motar---need more love plz
B4 howitzer--replace some commander ML20 plz
13 Mar 2021, 14:21 PM
#11
Posts: 469
I would like partisans to get smoke grenades
13 Mar 2021, 14:51 PM
#12
Posts: 469
Add stealth to conscript ppsh upgrade
15 Mar 2021, 06:33 AM
#13
Posts: 449
Let other factions steal or equip SVTs from Soviet Airborne.
I don't know if it's actually possible though, can non-Soviet units equip SVTs?
I don't know if it's actually possible though, can non-Soviet units equip SVTs?
15 Mar 2021, 07:39 AM
#14
Posts: 4928
Let other factions steal or equip SVTs from Soviet Airborne.
I don't know if it's actually possible though, can non-Soviet units equip SVTs?
They'd need to give SVT animations to every squad in every faction, and in some cases (USF Riflemen) SVT's are actually a downgrade from their default weapon.
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15 Mar 2021, 12:31 PM
#15
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close the pocket with partisans. 
15 Mar 2021, 14:48 PM
#16
Posts: 449
They'd need to give SVT animations to every squad in every faction, and in some cases (USF Riflemen) SVT's are actually a downgrade from their default weapon.
Give Riflemen PPShs then.
16 Mar 2021, 03:51 AM
#17
Posts: 378
Just make a commander with Shock Troops and T-34-85 and everyone will be happy.
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