Smartie's commander reworks: USF

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 07:49 AMSpadeAce999

I agree with your opinion. However, these adjustments require some work.The cav rifle is basically armed with an m3 grease gun. I think their armament needs to be adjusted to m1 carbine. Are you thinking of the idea that the Ranger can help with the lack of anti-infantry capabilities to the rifle company? If so, I agree. Your opinion.
And for Heavy cavarly, I thought the Cav Rifle was pretty much needed.

Jump back to quoted post16 Jan 2021, 17:40 PMIntoTheRain

Compared to the other premium mediums, it stats up very favorably

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 09:08 AMSander93

The problem with all USF Shermans is that they have to compete with the very (cost) effective stock HE Sherman and Jackson. All the special variants are good on their own, but there's little reason to pick them over these two, outside of personal preference.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 09:08 AMSander93

The problem with all USF Shermans is that they have to compete with the very (cost) effective stock HE Sherman and Jackson. All the special variants are good on their own, but there's little reason to pick them over these two, outside of personal preference. Why take a risk with a brawler tank when a Jackson can safely snipe away from 60 range. It's not like USF desperately needs AI either with the excellent scaling of double BAR Rifles. At least the 76mm is seeing a bit more use lately.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 09:27 AMSmartie

Agreed on this! That's why you and the team should break new ground with the E8 to make it distinctive.
Just to throw out an idea:
Redesign the E8 to a Commando Tank. Your modteam member Stark suggested this in the "new US commander" thread 2 ago and I think the idea is worth a discussion.

E8 Command Tank would give you a lot of options to design a really outstanding Sherman.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 08:10 AMSmartie

I've thought the Cav Rifles are thematically a slam dunk for Heavy Cav. They would also help to make the doctrine stronger in the early game. Rangers come very late. But CAv Rifles + off map smoke can make some noise.
I also don't like the fact that Heavy Cav combines the only heavy tank for US with an elite infantry unit. Pershing with a minor buff + CAv Rifles will already be a strong combo.

And "combined arms" could use some tweaks. Its barely used probably because of the high munition cost. Maybe lowering the cost (and the performance) would help.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 08:10 AMVipper

According to the stats, check post 35

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 12:44 PMSpadeAce999

If a Cav Rifle in Heavy Cavalry goes in place of Ranger, I think the Smoke skill should be replaced.
It is a subjective idea, but I think the M5 half-track vehicle is appropriate as an alternative skill.
If m5 is included in that way, I think there is a possibility that the lt tech will be used more in Heavy Cavalry's team game.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 13:08 PMTygrys

And yet people aren't using them. Funny how it's not just about stats, right?

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 13:35 PMVipper

When it comes to USF commander revamp on has to start with reducing the power of mechanized commander. The number of abilities/units this commander get is simply silly.

The power level of the commander is simply superior to that of other commanders.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 13:49 PMSkysTheLimit

They already have started doing that, the wc51 has nerfs in the patch. Which abilities are you going to remove then

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 14:13 PMVipper

I am not going to remove any abilities since it not my job to remove things.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 14:43 PMSkysTheLimit

Not really. I asked you a simple question

Which abilities/units should be removed from mechanized? You claim there are too many

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 14:59 PMVipper

As I said I am really interested in your flame wars.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 14:59 PMVipper

Mechanized has more abilities than most other commanders and that is simple fact not a claim.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 15:01 PMSkysTheLimit

No one is flaming you

Which do you want to remove

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 15:02 PMVipper

I would rather have the commander redesigned.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 15:16 PMPip

Then provide an example of how it might be redesigned.