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We can't.
They are engineers.
Its in the name.
Engineers are supposed to build these things. Its consistent.
Read their name very carefully and slowly, as many times as you need, no rush.
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Just change the name of Assgrens to Assault Pioneers then, then there's no problem.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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I guess one could removed bunker from assault grenadiers and sandbag, trenches and cashes from assault infatry section, sandbags from MP40 grenadiers and sandbag from PPsh conscripts.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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We can't, it would be inconsistent with sturmpioneers, sturm means assault in german.
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Look, katitof, just admit you're not actually arguing from a logical basis here and be done with it. This is very childish.
Assault Engineers are an assault squad that can also build fighting positions. This contradicts your earlier assertion that assault squads "cannot build bunkers".
See Vipper's post for why this "consistency" argument holds no water.
You have the same hardon for unnecessarily, and pointlessly nerfing axis units as you accuse others of doing for allied ones.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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No, I'm super cereal here.
They are engineers, just like spios.
Vippers posts lack consistency and arguments.
Please stop projecting
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Assault Engineers are an assault squad that can also build fighting positions.
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Read that again, but very very slowly.
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Are they or are they not assault infantry? They are also "Engineers", but they are primarily assault infantry.
Again, if we called "Assault Grenadiers" "Assault Pioneers" would that solve the issue of them being able to build Bunkers?
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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I don't know.
They seem to have a lot more "engineer" abilities then "assault" ones on their grid.
We already have assault pioneers in game.
Its OKW starting unit.
It would be inconsistent to have 2 completely different units with the same name.
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/assault
Look at the synonyms part, Pip.
An argument based off of the name of the unit? How far have we fallen...
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Assault Grenadiers are perfectly fine. They only excel at very close range. Most people will use sprint to close the gap. If I'm not mistaken, sprint is not free (??). As USF get an AA HT to shut them down or any sort of vehicle as any faction really. Always try to be behind cover vs them because they absolutely positively need to be close to deal damage. And if they are constantly using nades and sprint, you know they will have no munitions for infantry upgrades or abilities.
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Assault Grenadiers are perfectly fine. They only excel at very close range. Most people will use sprint to close the gap. If I'm not mistaken, sprint is not free (??). As USF get an AA HT to shut them down or any sort of vehicle as any faction really. Always try to be behind cover vs them because they absolutely positively need to be close to deal damage. And if they are constantly using nades and sprint, you know they will have no munitions for infantry upgrades or abilities.This is not accurate.
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This is not accurate.
For starters LV's like AA halftrack and T70 come out after the critical phase that I'm talking about. Also this is mostly an issue for Soviet players, since rifleman can deal a lot more damage up close.
As I said, green cover helps very little since they can sprint up to it without losing a single model.
Again, if you made it to spawn your LV with acceptable map control (and little bleed assuming you retreated before they got a chance to strike up close) then you're already well past the issue and most likely even have the upper hand now. I was very clear that this is an early EARLY game issue.
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I don't think they are OP. They just require a specific playstyle to deal with. They will 1v1 beat pretty much every non-smg squad early game due to their sprint, so they are excellent vs players who spread out their units a lot. However, they perform poorly vs concentrated forces as they will take casualties on the approach. Blobbing is the best tactic if you are able to dodge the MG42 that will probably also on the field.yes, this is the conclusion I came to experientially, but I still think certain maps will give assgrens an overwhelming edge that might be unsurmountable if used right before LV's.
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