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The time penalty of thorough salvage got removed a few months ago, so now its just a straight up better version of the normal salvage. Same time and +12 muni for wrecks/weapon teams and +36mun for abandoned vehicles.
How is that useless?
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I actually had until I hit that part.
Then I have just deleted it.
Katitof himself gave up on replaying to your "balance suggestion".
Let that be some kind of indicator of what level that suggestion is.
And I'm still convinced its a satire and you're trying to troll me now, because I refuse to believe someone would be this biased.
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Look at my playercard how am I biased? All you do is post on this forum and you literally don't play the game. I'm obviously talking about 1v1 if you have any intelligence.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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And yet, you think 240mp unit should trade evenly with 270/280mp units, that gap is incomparably larger post upgrades.
You think grens should get a discount without sacrificing anything or paying for it, you even compare it to cons who PAY AND SACRIFICE WEPAON SLOT.
Rest of what you've said is just more of the same in this direction.
There is nothing to argue here, its unrealistic, unreasonable and simply laughable.
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Ok, I got to the T4 part and now I'm 100% sure you're just writing a satire.
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Honestly the biggest problem with Grens for me is that they aren't cost-effective at all until you at least get Vet 3, the LMG upgrade and Tier 4 to reduce their reinforce cost from 30 to 28. I think making there base reinforce cost 28 would at least allow them to trade manpower evenly against Tommies and Rifles in the early game. In the late game, the Tier 4 building would give them a reinforce cost of 26 which seems fair since 7-man Cons have a reinforce cost of 18. Tier 4 could also cost 15 fuel to build again if needed. Tommies and Rifles would be more expensive to reinforce but have access to Weapon Racks and in the case of the Brits the bolster upgrade. 5-man Grens should have their received accuracy bonus removed and also remove free medkits (make the base medkits 10 muni). Otherwise tone Rifles, Tommies, and SVT/7-man Cons down a bit if Grens don't get anything. I would prefer this route because of power creep concerns. Also make the VSL upgrade take up 1 weapon slot so they can't pick up 2 Bar's and become T-1000's.
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reinforcement costs are balanced per squad...
grenadier = 30*4 = 120
conscript 20*6 = 120
currently conscripts and grens are roughly even in a fight usually trading squad per squad... if grenadiers were to reinforce at 28 off the bat then conscripts would always bleed more than they do hence to be fair you also have to reduce base conscript reinforcement costs
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I think people need to get off the train for how reinforce cost is balanced. Cons and grens trade evenly with no upgrades, equal cover and at vet 0. That is where this forumla has a case. That forumla is also only in play when only small arms are on the field. It gets thrown out the window against any AoE profile weapon. The fact that 7 man cons even get a manpower reduction is laughable ontop of getting the cover bonus and extra DPS and survivability.
Aren't tommies still 28 to reinforce and 270MP now? The forumla doesn't apply there and in a lot of cases. Considering how tommies dumpster volks for 10 MP more, is it really going to upset the game balance if grens aren't bought at the price of some callin infantry?
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I think people need to get off the train for how reinforce cost is balanced. Cons and grens trade evenly with no upgrades, equal cover and at vet 0. That is where this forumla has a case. That forumla is also only in play when only small arms are on the field. It gets thrown out the window against any AoE profile weapon. The fact that 7 man cons even get a manpower reduction is laughable ontop of getting the cover bonus and extra DPS and survivability.
Aren't tommies still 28 to reinforce and 270MP now? The forumla doesn't apply there and in a lot of cases. Considering how tommies dumpster volks for 10 MP more, is it really going to upset the game balance if grens aren't bought at the price of some callin infantry?
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The focus of this patch is: Core Armies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so no overall commander changes
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I think they are 280 and the formula is paying 40% rather than 50%, which is the same as other Elites.
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Buffing up commanders is out of question, ok, and I understand that you dont want to touch too many things in this patch.
But nerfing op commanders is not a "nice to have" thing. Its an absolute necessity. That both soviet SU-152 commanders and Jaeger Armor did not get any nerfs in the last years was absolute not comprehensible. All 3 commanders need to lose the strong offmap.
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Buffing up commanders is out of question, ok, and I understand that you dont want to touch too many things in this patch.
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