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[OKW] FlammPanzer Hetzer

27 Oct 2020, 17:09 PM
#41
avatar of Lady Xenarra

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Well to be fair here, why would you want build obersoldaten without LMG, if by the time you can build them, they will face vetted and upgranned inf.

Only time I would ever do this is to get an Ober on the field so that I can research PA while they're walking towards the frontline, then the LMG upgrade arrives close to the time that they actually need to start shooting. On their own even vet II 4 man IS can outdps your face iirc.

jump backJump back to quoted post26 Oct 2020, 23:29 PMPip

How overpowering would they be if you could just buy them from the beginning of the game? I expect some of their vet 2 bonus might have to be pushed to vet 3 if that were to happen.

They would literally walk over any mainline infantry in the game at that stage. In any case Obers are meant to be this big anti-infantry specialist, the only T4 infantry in the game. They're supposed to be able to crush mainlines late game.
Pip
27 Oct 2020, 17:14 PM
#42
avatar of Pip

Posts: 1594

I have made a thread on Obersoldaten's timing, so this thread doesnt get derailed any further.

https://www.coh2.org/topic/106777/obersoldaten-and-their-timing
27 Oct 2020, 17:45 PM
#43
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jump backJump back to quoted post27 Oct 2020, 17:14 PMPip
I have made a thread on Obersoldaten's timing, so this thread doesnt get derailed any further.

https://www.coh2.org/topic/106777/obersoldaten-and-their-timing


Thanks
27 Oct 2020, 18:58 PM
#44
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jump backJump back to quoted post27 Oct 2020, 17:00 PMSerrith


I think it says it all when at a similar timing, ostwind might be broken but hetzer should be ok.


No it doesn't. Ostwinds can deal with allied LVs while a hetzer has no AT at all.
27 Oct 2020, 19:34 PM
#45
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No it doesn't. Ostwinds can deal with allied LVs while a hetzer has no AT at all.

Owstwind are rather bad vs LV due to horrible accuracy/penetration and low scatter.
27 Oct 2020, 20:08 PM
#46
avatar of Katitof

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So, Shocks need 5 CP?

Point me to a time on CoH history when they were 5CP.
I can point you a time when they were 1CP in return.



No it doesn't. Ostwinds can deal with allied LVs while a hetzer has no AT at all.

Hetzer can take on single ATG frontally and decrew it, Ostwind can't.

If you don't have puppchen on field by that time, you really need to revise how you should play OKW, also these LVs were taken care of by puma, so it couldn't be more irrelevant that ostwind can engage them, its not going to kill anything that isn't ultra light anyway.
28 Oct 2020, 07:23 AM
#47
avatar of Serrith

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No it doesn't. Ostwinds can deal with allied LVs while a hetzer has no AT at all.


That's my point.
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