On map flares

Jump back to quoted post29 Sep 2020, 23:50 PMVipper

Cost to fire flares:

PM-41 30 MU
HM-38 30 MU
Panzer fusiliers 35 MU
Riflemen 35 MU
Sniper 40 MU
SdKfz 251 60 MU

In addition it seem the duration of the SdKfz flare to be sorter than other flares (not sure).

Finally HT can fire the flare only when in camo.

My suggestions would be to:
Lower cost of snipe flare to 35 MU
Lower cost SdKfz 251 flare to 30 MU(maybe even lower)
Allow it fire even when not cloaked
Increase duration if needed

Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2020, 17:38 PMJibberJabberJobber

251 flares reveal a much wider area than normal mortar flares, they're the same as OKW's spec ops flares after all.

That said, the ability could do with a cost reduction, because it requires a 251 and it can be only used in a limited range around it compared to off-map flares. I was thinking a reduction to around 40-50 muni, 30 would be too low imo.

Jump back to quoted post1 Oct 2020, 06:50 AMKyle

Soviet Mortar Flare should be a vet 1 ability...

A decent 2vs2 Soviet player that know how to use mortar flare = Rip Axis: Flare is not easy to notice like recon plane when you are in the heat of combat, a Katchusa or ISU can make short work of anything spotted by flare

I really wish that Ostheer can fire flare non-doctrine like Sov counter parts too ( Soviet Sniper + Mortar flare = non doctrine )

Jump back to quoted post29 Sep 2020, 23:50 PMVipper

Cost to fire flares:

PM-41 30 MU
HM-38 30 MU
Panzer fusiliers 35 MU
Riflemen 35 MU
Sniper 40 MU
17P 40 MU
SdKfz 251 60 MU

In addition it seem the duration of the SdKfz flare to be sorter than other flares (not sure).

Finally HT can fire the flare only when in camo.

My suggestions would be to:
Lower cost of snipe flare to 35 MU
Lower the cost of 17P to 30 MU
Lower cost SdKfz 251 flare to 30 MU(maybe even lower)
Allow it fire even when not cloaked
Increase duration if needed

Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2020, 14:15 PMmrgame2

allies flares are worst renmants of old world.

back when Ost weapon teams and Okw trucks were strong to lock down sectors.

There is no reason why allies flares still have such cheap cost and long linger time.

Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2020, 14:20 PMKatitof

There is also no reason why OKW should be allowed to have free gun on their tech or be allowed to place it outside of the base, but here we are.

Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2020, 14:25 PMmrgame2

except the free gun and outside base trucks are nerfed to kingdom come? how many okw players still depend on them to lock far sector?

they are easily destroy and you lose your tech builds?

the flak cant even function as well AA gun?

1 click map hack is still 1 click map hack.

no comparison.

Pretty ironic, considering you are using OKW which literally has stock map hack units.
Also, PFs, overwatch flares, spec ops flares, does that ring a bell?

Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2020, 14:36 PMmrgame2

Nothing ironic. I am supportive of all arty flare nerf. Cut the linger time by 50%. Increase reload times by 50%.