'Initial' Vehicle Adjustment Ideas

Jump back to quoted post24 Aug 2020, 01:48 AMAngrade (Ægion)

With the recent threads about the WC51, here is my response to the unit and all similar units.


Note, I have slightly tone down the weapons since the video. And sorry for the bad audio quality.

For me, the WC51, M3A1 Scout car, Kubel, and the Universal Carrier always have felt 'off.' Their life span is quite limited and their role even more so. So, I have adjusted them in my mod. Primarily their turn rates have been greatly increased due to how clunky they feel. Their health and armor has been adjusted so engagements are more reliable. All rifles penetration has also be increased to 1.5 from 1. This should make them more of a standalone unit rather than a single purpose unit. Their flanking capabilities and response times are increased so they can a great support units while able to support capturing.

Jump back to quoted post24 Aug 2020, 04:31 AMFelixTHM

Rifle penetration being increased to 1.5 with be a ninja nerf to shock troops btw

Jump back to quoted post24 Aug 2020, 09:47 AMVipper

I am sorry that some of my comment might be out of point but I could not really follow the video since the sound level of the game was allot higher than the sound of the comment and I couldn't follow them.

Imo the issues with "micro" light have to do with:

Inconsistent DPS curves, inconsistent moving modifiers, inconsistent modifier.

High modifier for off road and on road movement

Early hard counter time like 222 (imo the 221 should return and 222 should be delay and redesigned)

Inconstant durability with different armour, HP
and damage modifiers

Change could also include:
Lowering pop with veterancy

Less RNG for passenger when vehicle is destroyed like removal of death or hard cap to number of casualties, health damage/suppression instead.

Lowering power level of some of these unit, (for instance wasp could become earlier available and cheaper but have the DOT damage moved to an ability instead of always on)

Jump back to quoted post24 Aug 2020, 13:39 PMVipper

thanks for reading and responding to my post.

My point about mobility has to do with modifier units with wheel have for driving on road and crates. I suspect that part of their problems with pathfinding has to do with the fact that the gaps of modifier between road and crates are simply too wide. Imo one should test lowering that gap.

Although I can not test atm it seems to me that you might have to check how effective are these vehicles to kill retreating squads.

I would also suggest testing of removing the DOT from WASP and moving into an ability (it could possibly work as incendiary grenades work)

Imo being able to counter shock troops is not an issue.

Jump back to quoted post24 Aug 2020, 20:33 PMAngrade (Ægion)

Testing of chasing down retreating squads can be a bit hard, but it seems fine still a relative easy fix.


Do not worry, I have toned down the damage and gpu resources, in which you can play around with it in the mod. Instead of point target like a grenade, I decide to look at the Centaur's ability instead. Able to strafe an area with flames.

Also, I fixed the audio issues in the original, so I am more clear. (still uploading)