Why is the OKW artillery bugged?
17 Aug 2020, 18:05 PM
#1
Posts: 61
Am I just too dumb to use it, or is the vet 5 ability bugged? I just can't aim on vehicles with it. If it's me, what do I have to do?
17 Aug 2020, 18:45 PM
#2
Posts: 956
I tested it a while ago for a vehicle in sight range and it got the (stunning) shot off fine, was the target in the fog of war? If so it might have lost tracking.
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17 Aug 2020, 20:37 PM
#3
Posts: 61
I tested it a while ago for a vehicle in sight range and it got the (stunning) shot off fine, was the target in the fog of war? If so it might have lost tracking.
Is the range lower than without the ability? It just says that it cant be used on that target. It was visible. Never worked for me though.
18 Aug 2020, 00:24 AM
#4
Posts: 956
Is the range lower than without the ability? It just says that it cant be used on that target. It was visible. Never worked for me though.
The ability doesn't actually target a vehicle, but a location within range. Said range is actually extremely short but marked out by the dotted circle perimeter on the other side of the fence, as you can see in this picture.
Attempting to target anything outside this circle will just give you an error message, as they are outside the range.
All in all the direct fire's basically a flavour/gimmick ability at this point, with a short stun and it's barely even 1/3 of a med tank's hp. If they're that close your LEFH is dead anyway. Might as well try to blow them up on approach as you can target anything outside the direct fire range (but inside normal barrage range)
EDIT: And yes all the trucks died in this testing.
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18 Aug 2020, 01:54 AM
#5
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iirc the range is capped at 100 (?); not bad but noticably shorter than that of the regular barrage.
it also needs to be targeted (obviously) at an enemy vehicle in order to work and may even require direct line of sight, though i'm not sure on the latter.
never even got close to being able to use direct fire in a live game so far, but i remember testing the ability in cheatmod a while ago and it seemed to work as intended.
it also needs to be targeted (obviously) at an enemy vehicle in order to work and may even require direct line of sight, though i'm not sure on the latter.
never even got close to being able to use direct fire in a live game so far, but i remember testing the ability in cheatmod a while ago and it seemed to work as intended.
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18 Aug 2020, 08:01 AM
#6
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there is very little use for this abilty. the unit would be better of with a passive heal of the crew
18 Aug 2020, 08:32 AM
#7
Posts: 321
there is very little use for this abilty. the unit would be better of with a passive heal of the crew
Unit would be better off with a brace ability, like all statics. Just a 10 muni, 5 seconds immortality with 45 sec. cooldown.
- Who has time? ... But then if we do not ever take time, how can we ever have time? huh?
18 Aug 2020, 10:49 AM
#8
Posts: 61
The ability doesn't actually target a vehicle, but a location within range. Said range is actually extremely short but marked out by the dotted circle perimeter on the other side of the fence, as you can see in this picture.
Attempting to target anything outside this circle will just give you an error message, as they are outside the range.
All in all the direct fire's basically a flavour/gimmick ability at this point, with a short stun and it's barely even 1/3 of a med tank's hp. If they're that close your LEFH is dead anyway. Might as well try to blow them up on approach as you can target anything outside the direct fire range (but inside normal barrage range)
EDIT: And yes all the trucks died in this testing.
Thank you very much, that is, what I needed. Well then that's a real joke. Not that it's a surprise with all that balance though.
18 Aug 2020, 11:03 AM
#9
Posts: 498
I still say okw lefh and pak 43 should get self reinforcement (costs muni instead of manpower) and self heal with veterancy instead, while the other 3 vet bonuses are identical to ostheer's.
(ank flak emplacement would be no longer decrewable, base flaks included)
(ank flak emplacement would be no longer decrewable, base flaks included)
18 Aug 2020, 12:58 PM
#10
Posts: 956
Thank you very much, that is, what I needed. Well then that's a real joke. Not that it's a surprise with all that balance though.
You're welcome. And yeah OKW vet IV/V was nerfed a while back after they got their fuel/muni income normalised. A few essentially escaped it like the Kubel but no one's threatened late game by a vet V kubel.
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18 Aug 2020, 13:30 PM
#11
Posts: 2243
This ability is never used. From no one ...except from someone which want to find out what it does.
18 Aug 2020, 15:52 PM
#12
Posts: 518
This ability is never used. From no one ...except from someone which want to find out what it does.
If you ever get a LEFH to vet 5 , then the enemy is doing something wrong anyway
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
Playing with randoms
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.
Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
19 Aug 2020, 09:05 AM
#13
Posts: 1515
If you ever get a LEFH to vet 5 , then the enemy is doing something wrong anyway
You mean how on most maps LeFH can be put to base and still shell pretty close to your base? And 100% that it can shell from the base to all the VPs and a bit beyond (killing teams). In those terms, it's not hard to get LeFH to vet5
How much wood could a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
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19 Aug 2020, 13:50 PM
#14
Posts: 518
You mean how on most maps LeFH can be put to base and still shell pretty close to your base?
And 100% that it can shell from the base to all the VPs and a bit beyond (killing teams). In those terms, it's not hard to get LeFH to vet5
Maybe play some axis first and then tell me again how easy it is to get a LeFH to Vet 5.
If the enemy is even a half decent player he will usually take care of your arty if it causes big trouble to him. And if your LeFH gets to Vet 5 then it will have caused very big trouble along the way. There are so many options to take care of static, non embraceable weapons like the LeFH. Bombing runs are the easiest and most chosen ( on my rank ) of them.
So again. Play some axis first and then reconsider if it really easy to get one to Vet 5.
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
Playing with randoms
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.
Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
19 Aug 2020, 15:58 PM
#15
Posts: 1515
Maybe play some axis first and then tell me again how easy it is to get a LeFH to Vet 5.
If the enemy is even a half decent player he will usually take care of your arty if it causes big trouble to him. And if your LeFH gets to Vet 5 then it will have caused very big trouble along the way. There are so many options to take care of static, non embraceable weapons like the LeFH. Bombing runs are the easiest and most chosen ( on my rank ) of them.
So again. Play some axis first and then reconsider if it really easy to get one to Vet 5.
I didn't know you can call offmap arty onto enemy base.
How much wood could a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
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19 Aug 2020, 16:06 PM
#16
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I didn't know you can call offmap arty onto enemy base.
You can't. Just like you can't build the LeFH in your base.
19 Aug 2020, 17:26 PM
#17
Posts: 1515
You can't. Just like you can't build the LeFH in your base.
Isn't OKW build-able due to the fact that (same as Soviet) the buildings from OST teammate will extend the base sector and there will be a buffer where you can place, right at the edge? I used to do that with static ML arty
How much wood could a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
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19 Aug 2020, 17:34 PM
#18
Posts: 61
Isn't OKW build-able due to the fact that (same as Soviet) the buildings from OST teammate will extend the base sector and there will be a buffer where you can place, right at the edge? I used to do that with static ML arty
If it's outside the base, you can drop stuff on it. And it only can be build outside of the base. And yes, it's very rare to have a vet5 arty.
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