Centaur

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2020, 19:28 PMT.R. Stormjäger

I disagree that the Centaur is a bad unit or that it's in a bad spot or that it needs to come earlier. Well I generally disagree with this stupid trend in balancing discussions that everything needs to arrive earlier and every faction needs everything to be accessible, which has led to dumb buffs like Pgrens in T0.

Anyway, the Centaur imo is a victim of the current 1v1 meta, which is to just spam generalist mediums and support them with AT guns.

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2020, 19:33 PMKatitof

Another thing is, while Ostwind became murdermachine to the point where it had to had put a limit on affected entities, Centaur was getting nerf after nerf, falling to the level of performance in AI comparable to Cromwell at times and its low speed isn't helping the unit either, its higher armor over ostwind, ironically, helps exclusively against med generalist tanks.

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2020, 19:35 PMT.R. Stormjäger

Centaur is basically paying for its past sins of being absolutely broken.

I'm not sure how to buff it. I'd personally just buff its vet gain. It's extremely potent at vet 3 from my experience.

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2020, 23:02 PMVipper

The narrative that Centaur has has received continues nerfs is simply false the unit has not been touched in years.

Cromwell on the other hand has received a number buffs.

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2020, 23:12 PMProtos Angelus

Last nerf was 2 years ago on december update. It's quite easy to check the update history of that tank. https://community.companyofheroes.com/discussion/67/coh-2-changelog/p5
+ ctrl-F to search for "Centaur". It's true that it hasn't been touched in years (2) but it's also true that it has been getting nerfed.

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2020, 23:12 PMProtos Angelus

Last nerf was 2 years ago on december update. It's quite easy to check the update history of that tank. https://community.companyofheroes.com/discussion/67/coh-2-changelog/p5
+ ctrl-F to search for "Centaur". It's true that it hasn't been touched in years (2) but it's also true that it has been getting nerfed.

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2020, 23:12 PMProtos Angelus

Last nerf was 2 years ago on December update. It's quite easy to check the update history of that tank. https://community.companyofheroes.com/discussion/67/coh-2-changelog/p5
+ ctrl-F to search for "Centaur". It's true that it hasn't been touched in years (2) but it's also true that it has been getting nerfed.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2020, 21:19 PMAngrade (Ægion)

When it comes to both the centaur and ostwind, They have to compete in the role of infantry support with the P4/Cromwell. As nice as the centaur is and it performs well, it gets overshadowed by other units. This why I believe both the centaur and ostwind should be a suppression unit rather than a damage focused unit. Sort of like a HMG, but armored. This could also help fighting blobs more effectively as well, suppressing large groups. This would make the unit have a more clear a defined role from its counterparts.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2020, 21:53 PMIncendiaryRounds

+1

I'd love to see that

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2020, 09:19 AMJohnSmith

You're right about UKF having had continuously received the short end of the stick. Also, the Centaur is not the only UKF unit which has had a series of consecutive nerfs. Most of the UKF roaster has had a vast range of continuous shifts to worse over time. The few crutches that were left have also been removed over the past patches. Centaur and Cromwell were at launch unique in their intended design but they have had their knives blunted.

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2020, 19:04 PMProtos Angelus

Centaur by itself needs no buffs/nerfs in any way shape or form.
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It's extremely situational. And extremely situational units do not get fixed by buffing or nerfing them. They get fixed by changing their environment.