General Power of Factions in 1v1

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2020, 21:10 PMProtos Angelus

And if you can isolate that faction based on logical arguments, where take into account everything (mathematically possible, humanly impossible), you'll be a bona fide genius.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2020, 12:21 PMelchino7

You are over estimating how easy is to spot a broken faction/commander.

Not like it is the case right now but we have plenty of patches were one or 2 factions were dominant.


Someone has to be the best or worst overall faction. Whether is based purely on W/L ratio or accessibility. That on it's own is fine, the problem is when the gap between the top and the bottom is too big.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2020, 13:25 PMProtos Angelus

Eg. OKW in Lienne forest (forest side), is much stronger than US or Soviets, while much weaker on open spaces IN early game.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2020, 15:24 PMLeo251

I absolutely agree with the OP when he says the OST is good or competent ONLY when the player decide to go to Ostruppen, AssGrens or 5men Gren squads. Only in that cases the faction is competent.
Otherwise, it is the weakest faction.

So, the problem with OST is the lack of a durable mainline infantry, and the lack of LV.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2020, 21:05 PMIncendiaryRounds

I demand the moderators to expose those that voted UKF as weakest faction.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2020, 21:00 PMIncendiaryRounds

+100

This point needs to be repeated again and again. Just because winrates look decent doesn't mean the faction is fine. Ost is literally crutching hard on stock gren avoidance.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2020, 10:31 AMProtos Angelus

JuSt BEcaUSe ThE WiNRaTe LoOkS DeCeNT DoESNt MEaN tHe faCTiOn iS fINe....

Really? Holy moly you're delusional

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2020, 05:46 AMMr Carmine

Ahh incindiary dictator is back. Not only with entitlements but with demands as vet 1 abillity.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2020, 16:12 PMIncendiaryRounds

Tell that to the delusional people that think Ostruppen is OP because high level 1v1 meta is Ostruppen therefore Ostruppen OP yet Ostruppen hasn't been changed in years. If you'd like the list of names of people who said that Ostruppen OP, I'd be happy to share that with u, however sharing that information in public will trigger the moderators.

Allied logic says whatever is a popular unit for Ost means that unit is OP.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2020, 16:15 PMKatitof

Speaking of delusional, its not osttruppen or AGs that are op here, its the T2 LV rush they allow, which is also allowed by T0 PGs.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2020, 16:18 PMIncendiaryRounds

Katitof do u still stand by the statement u made a few months back about Flamer HT being OP despite it receiving THREE nerfs and ZERO buffs during its lifetime?

So now PG timing is OP too?

The WHOLE POINT of Ostruppen doc is to be oppressive early game. Both ostruppen docs have no late game strength.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2020, 16:12 PMIncendiaryRounds

Tell that to the delusional people that think Ostruppen is OP because high level 1v1 meta is Ostruppen therefore Ostruppen OP yet Ostruppen hasn't been changed in years. If you'd like the list of names of people who said that Ostruppen OP, I'd be happy to share that with u, however sharing that information in public will trigger the moderators.

Allied logic says whatever is a popular unit for Ost means that unit is OP.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2020, 16:15 PMIncendiaryRounds

I was always here. I don't post willy nilly. My unofficial job is to keep the forums at a respectable IQ level for all members.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2020, 16:26 PMProtos Angelus

Ostruppen are not OP. They are situationally good. But this is not about ostruppen. This is about your statement that OST is weakest faction. I mean I don't plan to argue here so whatever.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2020, 16:24 PMKatitof

Do you stand by your statement you constnatly repeat that brits are op despite getting nerf after nerf after nerf for years with exclusively valentine being raised out of irrelevance hell and tommies being so overnerfed they had to be buffed again to compete?


That is opinion of one of the balance modders, couple of high ranking players and mine, yes.


And you still will be able to do it, just won't benefit from more fuel T1 skip allows without sacrificing utility as T2 unlocks fausts now too instead of just T1, only from extra resource provided by improved map control, like it was always meant to be.


As I have said, chain of factors, not any particular single unit or thing regardless of how many autists try to swing it one or other way.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2020, 16:29 PMthedarkarmadillo

We need to review your performance.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2020, 16:35 PMIncendiaryRounds

snip

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2020, 16:15 PMIncendiaryRounds

I was always here. I don't post willy nilly. My unofficial job is to keep the forums at a respectable IQ level for all members.