Brit (non-doc) tools to delete OKW HQs are ridiculous

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2020, 11:40 AMVipper

Gammon bomb have no reason to do extra damage to buildings since they are vehicles snares. Mainline infatry have little reason to have the utility of blowing up structures.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2020, 12:28 PMadamírcz

As for the comparison with satchels, thats unfair AF, since getting 2 to 3 penals AND mortar as SSSR is hell of a lot more difficult than getting 2 to 3 Tommies and hammer

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2020, 12:28 PMadamírcz

Lel, git gud and L2P nub

Kappa

I am all for the proposed lowered damage on gammons against ONLY HQ buildings

As for the comparison with satchels, thats unfair AF, since getting 2 to 3 penals AND mortar as SSSR is hell of a lot more difficult than getting 2 to 3 Tommies and hammer

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2020, 12:41 PMSupport Sapper

Isn't back tech for support weapons kampania of sov was made cheaper recently? The entire tech structure is cheaper than Hammer tech alone. And 120mm call in is also there. I believe event rarely seen, 120 is still better than pit.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2020, 11:46 AMSuperHansFan

It's ironic because changing gammons into an AT snare would be a enormous buff to Tommies if anything

Axis would actually have to kite with vehicles against Tommy blobs instead of driving into them guns blazing

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2020, 12:38 PMKatitof

Tommies do not crap out smoke themselves.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2020, 12:49 PMRollingStone

Well, now they can with Pyrotech.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2020, 12:49 PMKatitof

You can't use that smoke with arty barrage, which is what OP is describing.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2020, 12:12 PMSupport Sapper

Isn't gammon bomb dose the same damage as satchel ? Or there is a special dmg modifider of gammon bomb vs structure that i dont know about ?


Anyway, as far as i know, gamon bomb and satchel are the same thing so the "do extra damage to building" things is incorrect.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2020, 12:12 PMSupport Sapper

Further more, penals are mainline And they can demolish building from the get go. Why cant Tommy do that ? Taking in to account that they have teched the latest tech level with offense theme in mind.

Still, i'm not again change gammon into snare at all, by making it stick. Finally uk will have snare on mainline, omg.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2020, 12:54 PMLady Xenarra

Problem with nerfing tools against Best-Kommando HQs is that you then end up incentivising more aggressive truck play and nobody likes to play against OKW Sims. Endlessly reinforced volksblob is just....bad. An exposed HQ truck should be punishable, within reason.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2020, 13:00 PMVipper

Weather aggressive truck placement should be punished or not is separate issue.

The question is should be punished by a mainline infatry with access to smoke, off map arty and anti structure satchels.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2020, 13:00 PMVipper

Weather aggressive truck placement should be punished or not is separate issue.

The question is should be punished by a mainline infatry with access to smoke, off map arty and anti structure satchels.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2020, 13:10 PMLady Xenarra

Out of interest, what's the cost of smoke + coordinate fire + the gammon bomb? Vs the IL-2? Think the IL-2's a one shot on HQs right? Trying to compare it against equivalent tools in the Allied arsenal.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2020, 13:04 PMKatitof

Yes.

The answer is yes.

Was it any other way, it would be addressed years ago, because its not a fresh "issue".

In fact, it was already addressed years ago, when OKW teching and economy was changed and ever since you have a choice - you either expose your trucks to counter by placing them forward, but also reaping potential benefits of doing so, or stick them to the base, where they are completely safe from everything but on map artillery.

No one is forcing you to place trucks forward, you evaluate risk vs reward and make a choice that suits you best, then deal with consequences of that choice.