5 popcap seems kinda rough for a now extremely situational niche unit that cannot fight nor capture territory (like medics or an USF ambulance who have popcap). It's a complete non-combatant like Opel Blitz which has 0 popcap
Remove popcap from the IR HT?
25 Apr 2020, 16:42 PM
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25 Apr 2020, 16:48 PM
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I dunno man, if you're floating 1000mp 500 fuel at the end of a 3v3 this would invite making 6-7 HTs and just getting free vision everywhere.
25 Apr 2020, 16:51 PM
#3
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I dunno man, if you're floating 1000mp 500 fuel at the end of a 3v3 this would invite making 6-7 HTs and just getting free vision everywhere.
1200-1400 manpower and ~30 is not really free
And for what scenario? The super late game where axis usually have things like flares, spotting scopes etc. already anyway?
25 Apr 2020, 16:52 PM
#4
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No thanks, popcap-less bunker/FP spam is enough, if anything there should be less non-popcap units (or they should be limited by other means).
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25 Apr 2020, 16:53 PM
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The design of the unit sin sneakeye mod is allot better imo.
25 Apr 2020, 16:53 PM
#6
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1200-1400 manpower and ~30 is not really free
Well free as in no pop cap. Tbh I'd sooner have the popcap abuse by USF go than have OKW abuse it as well.
I don't really see an issue with the unit, maybe a 1 or 2 pop cap reduction would be okay.
25 Apr 2020, 17:03 PM
#7
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5 popcap seems kinda rough for a now extremely situational niche unit that cannot fight nor capture territory (like medics or an USF ambulance who have popcap). It's a complete non-combatant like Opel Blitz which has 0 popcap
Sure, would be welcome in many a game where I'm at pop cap and desperately need sight into where that pesky TD wall is. It dies in 2 shots so is easier to get rid of than a bunker and has no direct firepower whatsoever.
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25 Apr 2020, 17:08 PM
#8
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Make it No pop cap or 1-2 pop and limit it too just 1 in the feild at a time.
25 Apr 2020, 18:23 PM
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5 pop seems a lot. I wouldn't bring it to 0 pop though, just because it doesn't have a gun doesn't mean it shouldn't cost pop. On the topic of pop, I think MG fighting position and mg bunkers should cost pop. The only unit that I can think of which shouldn't cost pop is the Wehrmacht resource truck (the OKW truck should cost pop in my opinion due to its front line reinforce ability, same as how the USF ambulance).
25 Apr 2020, 21:16 PM
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Not remove but lower it down to 3 (medic level) or 2.
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25 Apr 2020, 21:33 PM
#11
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No unit should have 0 pop. Lowering pop cap? Yes. Removing? No
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25 Apr 2020, 21:37 PM
#12
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5 popcap is fine. Dont need buffs.
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25 Apr 2020, 21:44 PM
#13
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I think if remove pop of IRHT,it better bundle with IRstg be commander unit and limit 1 or 2,and give other unit to medic HQ
25 Apr 2020, 22:08 PM
#14
Posts: 2358
Better Reduce the Popcap and buff it.
26 Apr 2020, 06:40 AM
#15
Posts: 783
I would be ok with a reduced popcap -or with the zero popcap approach, limit it to one on the field at a time.
26 Apr 2020, 07:02 AM
#16
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The design of the unit sin sneakeye mod is allot better imo.
What is that design
26 Apr 2020, 07:05 AM
#17
Posts: 773
I voted no but think it should be lowered to 2/3 popcap at most
26 Apr 2020, 07:29 AM
#18
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What is that design
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1nnpnpy2l2s0exa/IR_Halftrack_new_ability_v2.sga?dl=0
The halftrack has an timed ability which ignores line of sight, same effect as in the video of Olekman. It also detects camouflaged units within the sightcone while the ability is active.
The unit become inline with 251 from strategic reserves without the camo/reinforcement.
26 Apr 2020, 11:44 AM
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5 popcap seems kinda rough for a now extremely situational niche unit that cannot fight nor capture territory (like medics or an USF ambulance who have popcap). It's a complete non-combatant like Opel Blitz which has 0 popcap
imo opinion a unit that can see further then a JT can shoot is useful under any circumstance. People underestimate the power of constant vision.
I saw elpern clapping inca una a few days ago by looking into the enemy base from about mid vp on langres. checking for tanks and then sending in a sturmtiger to base rape him lol (kudoos for elpern)(1v1)
me my self and my buddies get atlesat 1 each at some point in the game. when playing 4s or 2s. if we all go okw. u can see su85s and jacksons u name it, b4 they can even shoot u, not to mention enemy t34 formations preparing for a Ram-and-Slam. the IR is incredibly usefull. especialy in team games, i for see problems if you remove popcap. Having a IR next to your elephant or JT makes life a lot easier. Also u can see blobs come in from miles away and prepare your arty accordingly. Also this thing takes 2 shots to kill, so u can go for an occassional sneakpeak, get an offmap in and gtfo lol.
def voted no
26 Apr 2020, 11:46 AM
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I saw elpern clapping inca una a few days ago by looking into the enemy base from about mid vp on langres. checking for tanks and then sending in a sturmtiger to base rape him lol (kudoos for elpern)(1v1)
Elp0rnGod teaching people how to play, as usual. Nothing new here, move along.
I see it quite often in 1v1s now, people have figured out how useful it is.
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