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Top players boycotting grens in the tournament.

18 Apr 2020, 19:43 PM
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Well, I see that the likes of Kimbo and VonIvan (and I may have missed a few others) are using ostruppen/agrens to great effect. In fact most players that use grens end up losing even with 5man upgrade. Haven't watch all the games but so far I've only seen Luvnest win a game with grens. Just sayin'. I'm not asking for any changes. Just my observations. Grens haven't really changed much, yet many top players are sick and tired of using them.
18 Apr 2020, 20:20 PM
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Was high on Ostruppen/PGren combo; especially with the new T4 buff. Ostruppen have AT snares, PGrens have great mid range DPS. They synnergize well together.
18 Apr 2020, 23:07 PM
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18 Apr 2020, 23:26 PM
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I know this is supposed to be sarcastic, but unfortunately it may be the truth not because grens are UP, but sections and rifles are OP (rifles only op vs grens).
18 Apr 2020, 23:29 PM
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That is a great picture. Well played.
18 Apr 2020, 23:42 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post18 Apr 2020, 23:29 PMFarlion


That is a great picture. Well played.


It's like that time people skipped on Riflemen to use Assault Engineers or Pathfinders when they were made 0 CP to call in.
19 Apr 2020, 06:52 AM
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Tightrope casted Orangepest vs Tiramisu.

First game was OH vs Su.
MG42 > AssG > 2x Grens. Fast 222 > PG
19 Apr 2020, 07:31 AM
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Tightrope casted Orangepest vs Tiramisu.

First game was OH vs Su.
MG42 > AssG > 2x Grens. Fast 222 > PG


Then final nail Tiger Ace. Insta game over!

TA is TOOO cheap!
19 Apr 2020, 07:36 AM
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Good to know people mix infantry that's means they are good balanced
19 Apr 2020, 14:58 PM
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Well, I see that the likes of Kimbo and VonIvan (and I may have missed a few others) are using ostruppen/agrens to great effect. In fact most players that use grens end up losing even with 5man upgrade. Haven't watch all the games but so far I've only seen Luvnest win a game with grens. Just sayin'. I'm not asking for any changes. Just my observations. Grens haven't really changed much, yet many top players are sick and tired of using them.

VonIvan often does not build any Grens and goes for Assgren-PGren combos. At least in this case it is nothing unusual.
19 Apr 2020, 15:29 PM
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VonIvan often does not build any Grens and goes for Assgren-PGren combos. At least in this case it is nothing unusual.


and he badly needed an AT gun at times, which he also "boycotts" in games...Maybe Incendiary needs to start a thread "Top Players boycotting Pak 40 in the tournament".

I watched the last couple hours of AE's cast. It seemed like Ost won most of the time. I don't remember seeing any UKF or any other sign of the dreaded Britocalypse that some people have been predicting.
19 Apr 2020, 15:30 PM
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Someone needs to look up the definition of boycott.
19 Apr 2020, 16:15 PM
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Boycott (verb)

The withdraw from commercial or social relations with (a country, organization, or person) as a punishment or protest.



The ”withdrawal from relations with” part seems to fit incendiaryrounds’ argument as few of the players built grens, but the “as a punishment or protest” part does not, as I do not believe they were doing it to protest or punish something.

Although if you count them trying to punish their opponent then maybe?;)

19 Apr 2020, 17:55 PM
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Good to know people mix infantry that's means they are good balanced


Apparently having a significantly lower winrate due to using your mainline inf is "balanced."
19 Apr 2020, 17:58 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post19 Apr 2020, 15:29 PMGrumpy


and he badly needed an AT gun at times, which he also "boycotts" in games...Maybe Incendiary needs to start a thread "Top Players boycotting Pak 40 in the tournament".



That was one game. Ostruppen and agrens that replaced grens, was used in far more games.
19 Apr 2020, 17:59 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post19 Apr 2020, 15:30 PMLago
Someone needs to look up the definition of boycott.


They're boycotting cuz they're protesting the performance of grens by refusing to use them.
19 Apr 2020, 18:33 PM
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Playing Ostruppen isn't 'protesting Grens'.
19 Apr 2020, 18:46 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post19 Apr 2020, 18:33 PMLago
Playing Ostruppen isn't 'protesting Grens'.


It is when Kimbo never gets a single gren all tournament.
20 Apr 2020, 01:30 AM
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Gren have no problem

Just ostruppen+PzG combination is OP

Pzg, in particular, received so many buffs that it became better to use with ostrupen


It's a non-topical story, but I think Tommy shouldn't have received the moving accuracy buff

Currently, the mod team hastily touched all the mainline infantry incorrectly, and it is crowded due to the butterfly effect.

It's not that the grenadier is weak, it's the result of Ostruppen and PzG becoming too strong.
20 Apr 2020, 02:10 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post20 Apr 2020, 01:30 AMblancat

Just ostruppen+PzG combination is OP



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