Vickers suppresssion speed?

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2020, 08:04 AMdistrofio

I said it does not deal 10%, pls read again. Heavy cover mitigates half the incoming damage. The squad might get hurt by the far AoE, only 1-2 models will receive near AoE dmg. Overall it hurts the creo by 10-20% of the squad health

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2020, 04:04 AMdistrofio

Did you know that even the riflenade is affected by directional cover? Even mortars do. If the Vickers is on heavy cover even if the gren squad scores a riflenade dead center, it only damages around 10% to the whole squad (not that the riflenade deals 10% dmg only). Bundlenades too, unless you flanked the HMG.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2020, 10:33 AMKieselberg

Wait whaaaaat?!

Grenades are affected by directional cover too? Even if they explode behind the cover , while beeing thrown over the cover?!

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2020, 08:21 AMAerohank

In the actual game however it just takes 2 grenades and a LMG burst or two.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2020, 08:04 AMdistrofio

It is at least a detail to consider, a well placed HMG can stand better against the marginal example of a riflenade. Trading a single model (30MP) and a skillshot that costs 30Mu for only a slight amount of damage is a bad trade. I think that its possible to kill the gunner if it hits just right, but im not sure about it.

It is relevant since this feature punishes badly placed hmgs compared to well defended positions. Trences and buildings are even better. This simple mechanic teaches and rewards players to use the hmg in a specific way. If you really want to stop grens from using riflenade, you should nerf their fire animation, nerfing overall the gren squad.

I do think that volks lavanade is BS when they can throw it under vickers fire, since it will force the vickers to move and damage the crew a lot more. The volks suppression bulletin is a big issue aswell.


I said it does not deal 10%, pls read again. Heavy cover mitigates half the incoming damage. The squad might get hurt by the far AoE, only 1-2 models will receive near AoE dmg. Overall it hurts the creo by 10-20% of the squad health

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2020, 01:43 AMSkysTheLimit

It's also why people complaining about the damage of the mg34 confuse me very much. Good damage really isn't necessarily a good thing for an HMG

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2020, 14:41 PMHannibal

It's because people want to counter HMGs with... other HMGs. And only high damage will win you that minute-long shootout.

Mortars apparently are not an option.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2020, 14:41 PMHannibal

It's because people want to counter HMGs with... other HMGs. And only high damage will win you that minute-long shootout.

Mortars apparently are not an option.