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I feel that volly fire is totally trash.
The penalty is so severe that it's almost a suicide ability.
abilities such as tactical advance have penalties, but this ability can be controlled to some extent during use.
But volly fire cannot do anything during use it.
I think it's a good idea to ease the penalty for this ability.
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try using the ability while in garrison
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I think the reason they are 25mp to re-enforce is to dissuade spamming them as an alternative to riflemen. If they were say, 20mp re-enforce again, spamming 4-5 of them at the start of a match would be somewhat viable again.
The RE is in a good spot though, just get them into a building at the start, or in green cover, and give them a BAR or a pair of zooks if you need AT.
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I'm pretty sure Rear echelons are primarily there as a cheap option to replace lost vehicle crews.
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try using the ability while in garrison
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If you see your opponent using a volly fire, just go out of range for about a second and then come back. Then volly fire, which cannot be controlled, will be stopped immediately. If you're approached, you don't have to do anything. The volly fire will kill you at an incredibly fast pace, even when garrison.
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I have stopped ST with RE and volley fire in garrison. The ability become stronger the longer it fires.
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That is what everyone knows. It takes more than 10 seconds to suppress the ST with volly fire. 10 seconds is enough to tear the garrison RE while moving even at maximum range. Volly fire suppresses SP when used, exactly 2 members die. Even when the opponent SP is hugging and moving, it melts very easily.
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Don't expect 200pm to hold off 300mp alone?they are a support unit. The fact they used to be able to hold off 300mp alome is exactly why they were nerfed...
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Weren't they something like 160mp originally, so you could spam the shit out of them? I think I remember players (Barton?) building a horde of them, capping all over the map, and putting a bazooka on them late game and having it be difficult for even top tier players to deal with.
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That's correct. Back then volley fire also increased the rof of zooks making for incredible shenanigans.
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That's what I thought I remember. It does seem like they were a bit overnerfed, but they do what they need to well enough that it doesn't really create a balance issue. It seems like their cost and reinforce should be a little less. I haven't played much USF or Ost since the patch but I think they cost as much or more to reinforce as Grenadiers, especially after BP4. I'd also like them to be able to make normal mines, but OST can't either so maybe there is some asymmetric balance there.
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