ISU-152 HE shell range should be reduced?

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2020, 10:11 AMEsxile

Dunno for the elefant but JT can deal with infantry, quite well in fact. I had couple of infantry squads 2 shots by JT

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2020, 11:59 AMKoRneY

If you move, it can't change targets. It's on a cool down. It costs muni. It can be a fairly unreliable ability - there are time s it just collides with something else. Usually craters.

You literally had to stand around for it to do that. I've never wiped a squad with it, because people either move or retreat. Then the damn thing is on cooldown and you can't do anything.

Generally it boils down to this - After you've tried to upgrade your fusiliers you can possibly squeeze in a barrage or two. You can keep doing it but you'll lock yourself out of your doctrinal arty.

So no, the JT isn't a thing that I would consider to use against infantry. Have you ever tried it? It's a pretty terrible ability. It might work if it were a timed damage toggle but if you move out of the barrage area to either charge it or retreat then it's pretty much done because it can't follow up any shots.

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2020, 15:09 PMthedarkarmadillo

I e found the barrage incredibly reliable. The trick is to use it on things that can't move quick enough like mgs or AT guns

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2020, 15:09 PMthedarkarmadillo

I e found the barrage incredibly reliable. The trick is to use it on things that can't move quick enough like mgs or AT guns

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2020, 15:35 PMachpawel

Just like with most barrages

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2020, 16:20 PMthedarkarmadillo

Well yes, but unfortunately it needs to be pointed out on here.... Some people think that if it isn't a rapid fire b4 barrage it's not good enough

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2020, 16:42 PMKatitof

I find it amusing that the exact same people who can't stress enough how OP ZiS barrage is complain about ST or brummbar barrages being too weak or useless.... Its almost as hypocrisy is half of their being.

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2020, 16:58 PMKatitof

Brummbar got 50% deflection damage.
Certain legless reptile would argue here, as he was in the past, that it can be used to kill tanks.

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2020, 16:58 PMKatitof

Hint: multiple soviet units have role duality, because its a faction theme together with 6 man squads, but these dual role units do not perform as well as specialists of other factions, that goes for ISU AT vs ele and jt, that goes for ZiS AT and that goes for SU-76 AT compared to all of their counterparts.

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2020, 16:58 PMKatitof

There isn't really any problem, just a bunch of low rank players who rush to balance forums the moment they think they lost to 1 unit and we never know the full story, because they always go "trust me bro" and some people take their words as it was a word of God himself.

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2020, 16:58 PMKatitof

ISU was balanced long time ago, since that time units it faces only got stronger and more cost efficient.
If you have problems with ISU today, that's "you" problem, post a replay and we'll help you get solution.

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2020, 17:08 PMachpawel

..and certain erect creatures can argue that the projectile speed in this case completely disqualifies it as a tank hunter.

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2020, 11:59 AMKoRneY

If you move, it can't change targets. It's on a cool down. It costs muni. It can be a fairly unreliable ability - there are time s it just collides with something else. Usually craters.

You literally had to stand around for it to do that. I've never wiped a squad with it, because people either move or retreat. Then the damn thing is on cooldown and you can't do anything.

Generally it boils down to this - After you've tried to upgrade your fusiliers you can possibly squeeze in a barrage or two. You can keep doing it but you'll lock yourself out of your doctrinal arty.

So no, the JT isn't a thing that I would consider to use against infantry. Have you ever tried it? It's a pretty terrible ability. It might work if it were a timed damage toggle but if you move out of the barrage area to either charge it or retreat then it's pretty much done because it can't follow up any shots.

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2020, 21:14 PMEsxile

Does it matter here? no, JT has AI shells.

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2020, 21:54 PMKoRneY

I guess to someone who loses squads to a heavy tank destroyer it really really does. Gj

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2020, 15:09 PMthedarkarmadillo

I e found the barrage incredibly reliable. The trick is to use it on things that can't move quick enough like mgs or AT guns

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2020, 21:54 PMKoRneY

I guess to someone who loses squads to a heavy tank destroyer it really really does. Gj

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2020, 11:59 AMKoRneY

If you move, it can't change targets. It's on a cool down. It costs muni. It can be a fairly unreliable ability - there are time s it just collides with something else. Usually craters.

You literally had to stand around for it to do that. I've never wiped a squad with it, because people either move or retreat. Then the damn thing is on cooldown and you can't do anything.

Generally it boils down to this - After you've tried to upgrade your fusiliers you can possibly squeeze in a barrage or two. You can keep doing it but you'll lock yourself out of your doctrinal arty.

So no, the JT isn't a thing that I would consider to use against infantry. Have you ever tried it? It's a pretty terrible ability. It might work if it were a timed damage toggle but if you move out of the barrage area to either charge it or retreat then it's pretty much done because it can't follow up any shots.

Jump back to quoted post27 Mar 2020, 10:39 AMButcher

I like to spam teh JT barrage and it hardly fails me. It's affordable in the lategame and the constant ability to wipe team weapons is highly appreciated. Ended up with quite some inf kills. I wouldn't underestimate the AI capabilities of the JT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF4jdyewgL8